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Post by hamilcar on Mar 20, 2019 15:05:49 GMT
Hello everyone! We will be running a DBA tournament as a part of our annual war-game show, Valhalla 19 (one of the longest running in the country!). This will be held on Sunday, 16th June 2019 (Fathers' Day). The theme for this year will be the Roman republic, 500-25BC. The tournament will include four to five rounds and will use the core DBA 3.0 rules as they are in the book (no special scenarios set). Ranking will follow a familiar format, with Swiss-chess style matching of opponents (and ensuring you don't play the same opponent more than once). Venue : Alderwood Leisure Centre, Alderwood school, Tongham Rd, Aldershot GU12 4AS What you will need: 1) A 15mm army compliant with DBA 3.0. The army has to be from the period of 500-25BC - armies with a broader range are allowed, but if they have various versions then a version for this period must be chosen). Ideally, this will be an army that fought with or against the Romans. If you don't have an army please let us know - we have a selection available which you could borrow for the day. 2) Dice, rulers, etc. What will be provided: Tables and terrain Umpires Registration for the tournament will be £10, which will include entry into the show. Most of this money will be used for prizes (more lead of course!). We are aiming to have around 16-20 participants, but would be happy to have more! To enter or enquire please reply to this post or contact me at: ivandjokic1@yahoo.co.uk Ivan Djokic Farnborough War Games Society fwgs.org.uk For more information on the Valhalla 19 show please visit: www.fwgs.org.uk/valhalla-2019 |
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Post by martin on Mar 20, 2019 16:40:49 GMT
Would very much like to attend.
Martin
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Post by diades on Mar 20, 2019 18:45:15 GMT
Definitely interested...not able to commit just yet.
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Post by mustrum on Mar 21, 2019 23:58:10 GMT
interested but I really hate the ancient period  |
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Post by arnopov on Mar 22, 2019 13:52:35 GMT
Looks cool, and I'm also interested, even if it's only a week after the Middland's Open.
What scoring system have you got in mind? How long would the games last? When would it start?
Thanks!
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Post by hamilcar on Mar 22, 2019 17:14:11 GMT
interested but I really hate the ancient period It's spears, swords and shields, with horses and arrows too! There are quite a few armies with knights as well if you're after that. At the end of the day, it's just a bit of fun! |
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Post by hamilcar on Mar 22, 2019 17:53:03 GMT
Looks cool, and I'm also interested, even if it's only a week after the Middland's Open. What scoring system have you got in mind? How long would the games last? When would it start? Thanks! Thanks for your interest! We want to keep things simple this year as it will be the first DBA tournament we organise - we are looking to make it an annual event, as a part of the show. Scoring: 4 points for a victory 2 point for a drawn 1 point for a defeat/unfinished game +1 point for each enemy element destroyed (excluding Scythed Chariots, Hordes and camp followers or denizens) +1 point for enemy general destroyed +1 point for the first double element destroyed +1 point for camp captured The games would last around 45 minutes, plus some time to set up and calculate the scores - a total of one hour per game. The games would would start at 10:15 or 10:30am (registration beginning at 10). |
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Post by phippsy on Mar 23, 2019 13:46:11 GMT
Also very interested in this event as;
1. Close to home
2. On a Sunday so no cricket clash and
3. Father’s Day so kidz will forget anyway....
Peter
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Post by scottrussell on Mar 23, 2019 14:44:40 GMT
Looks cool, and I'm also interested, even if it's only a week after the Middland's Open. What scoring system have you got in mind? How long would the games last? When would it start? Thanks! Thanks for your interest! We want to keep things simple this year as it will be the first DBA tournament we organise - we are looking to make it an annual event, as a part of the show. Scoring: 4 points for a victory 2 point for a drawn 1 point for a defeat/unfinished game +1 point for each enemy element destroyed (excluding Scythed Chariots, Hordes and camp followers or denizens) +1 point for enemy general destroyed +1 point for the first double element destroyed +1 point for camp captured The games would last around 45 minutes, plus some time to set up and calculate the scores - a total of one hour per game. The games would would start at 10:15 or 10:30am (registration beginning at 10). You differentiate between a drawn and unfinished game, but how is a finished game drawn? If there have been four kills at the end of a bound, but the scores are level, you play on until there is a result. Scott |
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Post by bob on Mar 23, 2019 16:10:28 GMT
Scoring is a tricky thing for DBA. There are only two results possible according to the rules in the book. The game is lost, or you keep playing. "The first side that at the end of any bound has now lost a total of 4 elements not including Scythed Chariots, Hordes, camp followers or denizens and has also lost more such elements than the enemy, has lost the battle. " In the advice section, Phil makes some suggestions: " If you are designing your own system, it needs to ensure that a single massive victory does not outweigh a more consistent string of successes, that wins are always more valuable than draws/unfinished games and players are not encouraged to get ahead in a game by a small margin then stall. " He implies that draws and unfinished games are the same. If no one loses, then no one wins. Some events do count ties as unfinished games with both players losing equal number of elements. But does that imply an unfinished game with one player losing more is a win for the other player? Many event use a set score for winning (25 points or some such), and then adding points for elements destroyed minus elements lost. Losers and both in unfinished games just get the elements they destroyed minus loses sometimes. Here are two examples with much history behind them. ancientwargaming.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/dba_score_card.pdfbuttocksofdeath.com/index.php?title=NASAMW_DBA_Scoring |
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Post by macbeth on Mar 25, 2019 0:03:12 GMT
Phil makes some suggestions: " If you are designing your own system, it needs to ensure that a single massive victory does not outweigh a more consistent string of successes" I bet Phyrrus wished that this was the case in his battle with Rome
I am sure Hannibal echoed the sentiment
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Post by hamilcar on Apr 1, 2019 11:04:16 GMT
Thanks for your interest! We want to keep things simple this year as it will be the first DBA tournament we organise - we are looking to make it an annual event, as a part of the show. Scoring: 4 points for a victory 2 point for a drawn 1 point for a defeat/unfinished game +1 point for each enemy element destroyed (excluding Scythed Chariots, Hordes and camp followers or denizens) +1 point for enemy general destroyed +1 point for the first double element destroyed +1 point for camp captured The games would last around 45 minutes, plus some time to set up and calculate the scores - a total of one hour per game. The games would would start at 10:15 or 10:30am (registration beginning at 10). You differentiate between a drawn and unfinished game, but how is a finished game drawn? If there have been four kills at the end of a bound, but the scores are level, you play on until there is a result. Scott You are correct of course, it is 1 point for a drawn/unfinished game OR defeat. No point in skulking about! |
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Post by hamilcar on Apr 1, 2019 11:06:56 GMT
Phil makes some suggestions: " If you are designing your own system, it needs to ensure that a single massive victory does not outweigh a more consistent string of successes" I bet Phyrrus wished that this was the case in his battle with Rome
I am sure Hannibal echoed the sentiment
There are many ways to score games - we want to keep it as simple as possible, with the main objective of enjoying the games and worrying less about the points. also to encourage aggressive play, so the games get finished in time! |
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Post by hamilcar on Apr 1, 2019 11:09:08 GMT
Also very interested in this event as; 1. Close to home 2. On a Sunday so no cricket clash and 3. Father’s Day so kidz will forget anyway.... Peter Great, drop me an email (address in the first post) when you're ready to commit! |
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Post by paddy649 on Apr 1, 2019 11:36:57 GMT
Please count me as interested but unable to commit at the moment.
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