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Post by attilathenun on Apr 1, 2019 21:19:06 GMT
Sounds great, I'll be there!
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Post by macbeth on Apr 1, 2019 22:41:01 GMT
I bet Phyrrus wished that this was the case in his battle with Rome
I am sure Hannibal echoed the sentiment
There are many ways to score games - we want to keep it as simple as possible, with the main objective of enjoying the games and worrying less about the points. also to encourage aggressive play, so the games get finished in time! In fact I agree, but whenever I see or hear the issue of eventual victory MUST go to the player who wins the most games I can't shake the image of Phyrrus, Hannibal (or Napoleon in later periods) complaining that they won every game up to the last only to have the someone else be awarded the trophy
In fact the system that I use at my tournaments is
Win = 8 Points (flat rate score regardless of whether the winner took out an El General with a lucky Art shot in bound 1 or there was a line of Kn slamming into a line of Wb 8 element massacre)
Non Winners 1 point per element killed (to a Max of 3) regardless of type (double elements get no extra/Hd,SCh get no less); 1 point for killing a general; 1 point for taking a camp or city; 1 point for the game ending
So the loser could conceivably pick up 6 points - however I would love to see the incident of a player killing 3 elements including the general, taking the camp AND still losing the game - in general a loss ranges from 1 point to 4 points
An Unfinished game has each player ranging from 0 to 5 points.
I find this works well - in general over 6 rounds 5 wins and a massive loss ( 5x8 + 1 = 41) beats 4 wins and two close losses (4x8 + 3 + 3 = 38) and no winner is penalised because they had to grind away to get their 4 kills to win whilst another player managed to catch a line of Wb in the open with Kn and killed 8 elements without raising a sweat.
The winners are kept together so a Swiss Chess draw pits them against each other until (like the Highlander) there can be only one whilst the losers are graded and sorted making the chance of equal points at the top end less and less likely.
Way back in the early years of this century when I started running DBA competitions I first tried using the Campaign Prestige points system from the old (DBA1 and DBA2) campaign system - (1 point for each element killed over and above the elements you lost +2 for killing a general, +2 for taking a camp/BUA) but that led to the very occasional instance of the loser (who killed a general or took a BUA) scoring better than the winner.
I then moved on to scoring by strict body count (elements killed) and the usual bonus for killing a general or taking camps/BUA but it led to the occasional massive shift in the lead when someone killed 6-8 of the enemy whilst the previous leader killed a general in the opening move so ended the game with very few kills. Someone suggested that the system was open to collusion with players agreeing to a narrow but bloody result (ie 8-7 or more) in advance <how I scoffed!!!>
I only wish I could be over there to join in but Canberra to Aldershot is a bit of a hike. Someday I hope to get north of the equator and pick up a tournament or two
Til then
Hope it goes well
Cheers
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Post by hamilcar on Apr 2, 2019 11:27:28 GMT
Please count me as interested but unable to commit at the moment. Please drop me an email and I pencil you in. I will let you know when we get close to capacity.
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Post by phippsy on Apr 10, 2019 7:51:07 GMT
Hi Ivan,
I would like to register for this event. Would you like the £10 sent by bank transfer or some other means? Is it best to email to sort out logistics?
Thanks
Petet
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Post by hamilcar on Apr 25, 2019 9:08:21 GMT
Hi everyone,
We have eight more spaces remaining now.
Let me know if you want to take part!
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Post by martin on Apr 28, 2019 7:04:40 GMT
Hi everyone, We have eight more spaces remaining now. Let me know if you want to take part! What sort of numbers are you hoping for, Ivan?
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Post by martin on Apr 29, 2019 14:32:48 GMT
Scott, mustrum, paddy, arnopov, diades.....
Anyone firmed up yet?
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Post by paddy649 on Apr 29, 2019 15:38:46 GMT
I’ll talk to the long haired General at the next opportunity.......assuming I do something suitably auspicious between now and 16 Jun!
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Post by menacussecundus on Apr 29, 2019 17:28:09 GMT
Hi everyone, We have eight more spaces remaining now. Let me know if you want to take part! What sort of numbers are you hoping for, Ivan? And what is the deadline for registering?
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Post by mustrum on Apr 29, 2019 19:24:52 GMT
still not 100% sure and would need to borrow an army for it if so. Need to work out when I move and if I have the kids or not (dont think i do tbh so more if im moving around then or not!)
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Post by martin on Apr 30, 2019 7:51:27 GMT
I’ll talk to the long haired General at the next opportunity.......assuming I do something suitably auspicious between now and 16 Jun! 😊 SWMBO, as they say.....
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Post by martin on Apr 30, 2019 7:52:23 GMT
still not 100% sure and would need to borrow an army for it if so. Need to work out when I move and if I have the kids or not (dont think i do tbh so more if im moving around then or not!) I can lend you one, if you can make it, Oli.
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Post by peteduckworth on Apr 30, 2019 9:00:26 GMT
Looks cool, and I'm also interested, even if it's only a week after the Middland's Open. What scoring system have you got in mind? How long would the games last? When would it start? Thanks! Isnt it the day after the Midlands open? Or have I mixed up my diary?
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Post by menacussecundus on Apr 30, 2019 11:46:50 GMT
Looks cool, and I'm also interested, even if it's only a week after the Middland's Open. What scoring system have you got in mind? How long would the games last? When would it start? Thanks! Isnt it the day after the Midlands open? Or have I mixed up my diary? Midlands Open is 8 June Pete. (You're going to it BTW.)
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Post by martin on May 5, 2019 4:54:52 GMT
This is my ‘best guess’ at the armies which MAY fit the bill for the theme.....organiser suggested it should be armies for/against the Roman Republic. Could anyone spotting anomalies please post here ?
Armies and Enemies of the Roman Republic, 500-25 BC. Rome- I/59 Tullian Roman II/10 Camillan Roman II/33 Polybian Roman II/49 Marian Roman
Enemies- I/7d Early Libyan I/36abd Italian Hill Tribes I/47 Illyrian I/48 Thracian I/55cde Latin, Umbrian I/57ab Etruscan II/5 egh Later Hoplite Greek II/8 abc Campanian etc II/9a Syracusan II/11 Gallic II/13 Samnite II/14 Ariarathid Kappadokian II/19cd Seleucid II/20cd Ptolemaic II/23a Nomad LPIA II/27b Pyrrhic II/28ab Armenian II/30bc Galatian II/31gij Hellenistic Greek II/32ab Later Carthaginian II/34 Attalid Pergamene II/35 Later Macedonian II/37 Parthian II/39abc Ancient Spanish II/40 Numidian II/44 Commagene II/45abc Slave Revolt II/47 abdg Early German II/48 Mithridatic II/51 Late Judaean II/52 Dacian II/53 Ancient British
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