Post by plevv on Sept 1, 2020 10:13:12 GMT
An element has moved into frontal contact with an enemy Psiloi.
There is another friendly element say, half a move to the right and behind this contact that could be moved to contact the right flank of the enemy Psiloi
But a move into full contact with this flank would not be legal because it would involve pivoting through an enemy TZ as per figure 7c.
The player notices he could do the next best thing by moving the same element straight into a corner-to-corner overlap position like Blade C in figure 9a
Normally this would be the option taken since it creates a group with the attacking element that may be convenient after the combat.
But since the enemy element is Psiloi, the player will not get an overlap benefit since the overlap rule on P12 expressly excludes overlaps on Psiloi when such a corner-to-corner overlap occurs. So this does not work for him.
However, the next sentence in the overlap rule says that ANY elements in mutual side-edge contact are treated as being in mutual overlap. The player realises that he can do a standard move (avoiding the enemy TZ) so that the side edge of his element ends in contact with the attacking element, but instead of having its left corner in contact with that element, it has the overlapping element end its move forward of the attacking element's front by a couple of millimetres so that the Psiloi and the overlapping element are in mutual side edge contact instead. The combat can thus gain the benefit of an overlap.
The argument for this being a legal move is that it satisfies the requirement that - at the end of the bound's movement phase the moving element has ended in an overlap position as defined on P12. And mutual side contact is an overlap.
It looks like cheese to me in that it is a way of evading the idea of Psiloi (and Scythed Chariots) not being vulnerable to overlap because they are not in rigid formations or are moving too quickly, whatever. It also means that an element of say, Blades, could overlap an element of Elephants by moving directly into side edge contact with the last 20mm of the elements base and have no contact with the friendly element contacting the Elephant's front. Does that seem right?
However, while there is nothing in the rule that I can find that expressly forbids it, it does not seem to be envisaged as a valid movement into overlap either. The mutual side edge contact rule being there to cover the result of another combat being entered into or as a result of some outcome of another combat. The only thing I can think of to forbid it is an interpretation of the diagrams which do not show a move into contact in such a way.
Views?
There is another friendly element say, half a move to the right and behind this contact that could be moved to contact the right flank of the enemy Psiloi
But a move into full contact with this flank would not be legal because it would involve pivoting through an enemy TZ as per figure 7c.
The player notices he could do the next best thing by moving the same element straight into a corner-to-corner overlap position like Blade C in figure 9a
Normally this would be the option taken since it creates a group with the attacking element that may be convenient after the combat.
But since the enemy element is Psiloi, the player will not get an overlap benefit since the overlap rule on P12 expressly excludes overlaps on Psiloi when such a corner-to-corner overlap occurs. So this does not work for him.
However, the next sentence in the overlap rule says that ANY elements in mutual side-edge contact are treated as being in mutual overlap. The player realises that he can do a standard move (avoiding the enemy TZ) so that the side edge of his element ends in contact with the attacking element, but instead of having its left corner in contact with that element, it has the overlapping element end its move forward of the attacking element's front by a couple of millimetres so that the Psiloi and the overlapping element are in mutual side edge contact instead. The combat can thus gain the benefit of an overlap.
The argument for this being a legal move is that it satisfies the requirement that - at the end of the bound's movement phase the moving element has ended in an overlap position as defined on P12. And mutual side contact is an overlap.
It looks like cheese to me in that it is a way of evading the idea of Psiloi (and Scythed Chariots) not being vulnerable to overlap because they are not in rigid formations or are moving too quickly, whatever. It also means that an element of say, Blades, could overlap an element of Elephants by moving directly into side edge contact with the last 20mm of the elements base and have no contact with the friendly element contacting the Elephant's front. Does that seem right?
However, while there is nothing in the rule that I can find that expressly forbids it, it does not seem to be envisaged as a valid movement into overlap either. The mutual side edge contact rule being there to cover the result of another combat being entered into or as a result of some outcome of another combat. The only thing I can think of to forbid it is an interpretation of the diagrams which do not show a move into contact in such a way.
Views?
)