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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 13, 2017 23:59:41 GMT
Crikey three years on and the curse of my old yahoo email address still haunts me.
Thanks Paul U R a *
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 13, 2017 15:27:37 GMT
Results were as Follows Tony Green 16 (23) Graham Fordham 16 (22) Colin O’Shea 14 (18) Mark Skelton 12 (22) Kevin Casey 12 (20) Pete Duckworth 11 (20) Philip Donald 11 (22) Simon Wilson 11 (14) Adrian Brooks 10 (17) Phil Steele 10 (16) Martin Smith 9 (15) Pete Manning 8 (18) Paul H 8 (17) Tamara Fordham 8 (13) Neil Mason 7 (17) Richard Young 6 (14) Mark Johnson 5 (12) John S (Antigonas)5 (12) Will Whyler 5 (9) Tristan Gale 4 (8)
Interestingly the top two players both had French 3rd & 4th were both the much vaunted Spanish. Armies were varied - we even had 2 Swiss and both of us did OK. Tudor English were inevitably over represented (3 Armies) but generally we had a fine. All very coloyurful an players seemed to cope with the restricted time.
Apologies to Tristan whose wooden spoon choice of books I omitted in the prize-giving! Apologies also - because of the army swap we "should" have restricted terrain to a pre-supplied selection in the Tarrington Scramble style. Do forgive the alcohol based prizes but given the Italian theme it just seemed right.
Thanks to everyone who came. I was really pleased with the turnout 20 is our record and we would struggle to facilitate many more at that venue.
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 13, 2017 11:49:14 GMT
Sorry Paul.
I missed the above request for payment.
Do email me if there are any drop outs (htrowkcud@gmail.com)
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 9, 2017 13:35:55 GMT
Thanks Pete. Thanks Terry and thanks to those who voted for my Early Russians. I'm very pleased. Perhaps I should'nt play this year! Colin On the contrary Colin - the challenge is to make it 3 in a row. - then you can consider layiong it down to give the rest of us a chance!
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 8, 2017 10:54:25 GMT
Congratulations Colin.
Another well deserved victory!
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 4, 2017 11:51:33 GMT
Mark and others have noted the superiority of Iv/68f from the list of armies.
However people seem not to have noted that the final games will be played with your opponents army, so a killer list may not be helpful given the Swiss Chess format...
Looking forward to it We managed 16 last year - lets hope its a good one.
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 1, 2017 11:41:50 GMT
Joe I'm with you on 1-3
I don't see the logic of 4 nor why a player would want to adopt such a formation.
I sense we ARE seeing 3Bd taking a dominant role
I'm 100% with Diades on fast foot movement reduced by 1BW in rough or bad going but would except Psiloi (probably Wb as well but see below) - Psiloi need a boost and being the only quick moving bad terrain troops might be an edge. Also with him on Littoral landings.
None of which fixes the poor warband - give them 3 vs mounted and let the double rank count as well?
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Post by peteduckworth on Feb 1, 2017 11:28:32 GMT
Hi Paul
We should be over about 4:30. I try to keep timing tight and penalizing draw results helps
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 30, 2017 23:36:14 GMT
Pete, Talking of dismounting and esoteric rules more generally, I am inclined to think that you have to deploy all of your Cm// options as mounted in the first instance and then dismount them, rather than deploy them already dismounted. Of course I might be completely wrong.....I was surprised at just how many rules I didn't know (bearing in mind i was involved in writing and testing them!). Regarding Crusade as a whole, I thought the new venue was a great improvement. Being able to park on site was a major plus, as was visible daylight. My impression was that there was no significant drop off in the number of trade stands, or of paying customers compared to last year. Long may it continue. Scott I see what you mean in terms of logic Scott but Page 3 3rd paragraph has "Those listed as / or // can be deployed as either the mounted type or already dismounted as the foot type; those listed as // can also dismount during the game as a complete single element tactical move." Its plain in the second clause that that means each individual element so presumably true in the first clause. As Colin suggested I think Qarmarti are Mounted Infantry at best. Like you I'm astonished that a rule-book of approximately 8 pages has so many surprises after two years regular play. Personally I'm utterly unconvinced of large bodies in the Ancient/Medieval world dismounting once a battle started, other than to attack fortifications etc. Only Solid foot to get the quick kill on Knights would be a terrific improvement IMHO. We would still need a fix for the poor Warband - even their fast version seems doomed.
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 30, 2017 23:29:36 GMT
Pete, Talking of dismounting and esoteric rules more generally, I am inclined to think that you have to deploy all of your Cm// options as mounted in the first instance and then dismount them, rather than deploy them already dismounted. Of course I might be completely wrong.....I was surprised at just how many rules I didn't know (bearing in mind i was involved in writing and testing them!). Regarding Crusade as a whole, I thought the new venue was a great improvement. Being able to park on site was a major plus, as was visible daylight. My impression was that there was no significant drop off in the number of trade stands, or of paying customers compared to last year. Long may it continue. Scott I see what you mean in terms of logic Scott but Page 3 3rd paragraph has "Those listed as / or // can be deployed as either the mounted type or already dismounted as the foot type; those listed as // can also dismount during the game as a complete single element tactical move." Its plain in the second clause that that means each individual element so presumably true in the first clause. As Colin suggested I think Qarmarti are Mounted Infantry at best. Like you I'm astonished that a rule-book of approximately 8 pages has so many surprises after two years regular play. Personally I'm utterly unconvinced of large bodies in the Ancient/Medieval world dismounting once a battle started, other than to attack fortifications etc.
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 29, 2017 23:30:06 GMT
The new venue is excellent and what a great turnout. I had a disastrous first game against David’s massed pikes, but the most exciting was against Mark’s Tupi – manoeuvre, unlikely results and a warband general surviving 3 rounds against knights maintained the tension right until the end, when my Palmyrans finally went down. I didn’t get to play against Arnaud’s elephant circus but did manage to force another player’s elephants to trample each other, saving me from disaster. Congratulations to Pete in overcoming the trumpeting Tamils, a tricky result to achieve particularly as camels flee from elephants rather than recoiling – they were still playing after I had finished 2 plate games! A great day, Alan, thank you and thanks to Magister Militum for their continued sponsorship. Colin Colin your post nearly had me returning the trophy. Im the heat of battle Arnaud & I forgot the camel flee from elephants. As I recall it only happened once The Qarmati mostly dismounted as spear before Elephants in an attempt (largely failed) to catch Tamil Bow. The one camel that did face recoiled rather than fled but was sandwiched behind a Psiloi and looked as if it would be squished up against my overlarge (but pretty Baueda) camp. Had he fled I could have maneouvered (& dismounted him) so I think our failure to play the rules as written actually worked against me... My victory over Arnaud was down to a couple of fortunate combat rolls at the right time and the predictable failure of PIPS for Arnaud at crucial times once we finally stopped maneuvering and got stuck in so he could only move zero, one or two elephants - but that comes with 5 elephant territory. Our slow progress resulted from awkward terrain with a fort on one flank and a huge enclosure on the other both of which stopped dead speedy camel progress. Facing 3 Bd across the enclosed paddy fields I didn't dare move the camels through as it would have taken them three moves to cross but the Blade were utterly unaffected by it. Only once Arnaud entered the clag was I willing to follow suit getting him in my ZOC. Even then the pesky 3 Bd retreated as soon as Arnaud had sufficient PIPs to move backwards. A terrific, close game though VERY slow. The score in no way reflects how close it was. Arnauld's attack was stalled when my (very busy) psiloi destroyed an element of 3Bw using the -1 edge of the world rule. Very tricksy maneuvering on both sides. A terrific day and a lovely warm Welsh welcome. The venue and show add a real bonus - I picked up some lovely tufts for nicer basing. Another terrific opportunity to catch up and play lovely games with some of the friendliest gamers in the world. Winning was a real thrill and icing on an already sweet cake. Thanks again to all who took part especially my gracious well spirited opponents. Also special mention to James who drove me down and whose mid- table result represents such a leap forward from his first DBA comp last year when he managed to destroy just 1 element in 6 games! Re rules: - 3Bd seem astonishingly powerful. So much so I have spent my Magister Militum voucher on Celtiberians already! What a shame they don't have any allies...
- Dismounting troops is really cheesy and we should consider amending the option.
- Low aggression is VERY significant Its not so much the 5 Elephants as the terrain that Arnaud uses with them that make it a tough nut to crack. Arnaud & I agreed that the most significant throw in the game was to determine the defender (he wasn't keen for Elephants to attack accross my dunes). Would we take different armies if we disregarded the aggression factors in the lists for competition play? If we can accept that a Spanish & Tlaxcalan Army can a European Bronze Age army separated by both thousands of years and a huge ocean of space is the agression factor in any way relevant?
Sorry to drone on...
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 25, 2017 11:20:23 GMT
Cheers Terry GR8 pics. I look forward to voting in the two categories soon.
Well done in once again organizing the world's only international wargaming tournament!
Shame though we seem to have diluted the Good V Bad faction element I rather liked the idea of that...
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 9, 2017 11:39:56 GMT
You will be sorely missed
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 7, 2017 23:23:23 GMT
Hi Pete, I'm keen to come along on the 12th of Feb, but I don't have any armies from that time period. Could I please borrow one of the loan armies for the day? Iv/68f if possible please! Cheers, Mark Hi Mark I have lots of loaner armies but no Spanish Neil Mason has Spanish from a DBM Project So might help. How about IV/13d They have lovely hats? And remember the uber armies are an illusion as you will play with your opponents army in the 2nd 1/2...
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Post by peteduckworth on Jan 7, 2017 23:15:09 GMT
Greetings Will see what I can do to get there. I found my late mediaeval figures last week .... I haven't played DBA for ages and 3.0 not at all. Note that there is quite a bit of debate about Ordonnance 'archers' in the early Italian Wars with pictorial evidence from Fornovo and Genoa in 1507 of uniformed longbow men in action. I am not yet well read up on this one. Regards Edward OK I'm happy to relent on the mounted LB in the French
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