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Post by jim1973 on Sept 17, 2020 8:24:24 GMT
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Ax Ax Ax And they also couldn’t move into mutual side-edge contact with the Psiloi, or even into corner-to-corner contact (which would have no effect anyway) unless the centre Warband first moves into front-edge contact to switch off this mysterious force field. One of the benefits of these discussions is that it makes you read and re-read the rules. On page 9, in "Moving into contact with enemy", the second sentence states "At the end of the movement phase..." Does that mean that you adjudicate the legality of the contact only after all movement is complete? If so, you can make room by moving into overlap and then moving into frontal contact. Thoughts? Cheers Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 17, 2020 4:05:32 GMT
Added words. What it actually says is:- “Any enemies in any mutual flank edge contact overlap each other whether in close combat or not.”  Ax 2 is in an overlap with no enemy in contct to its front . Take Ax 1 away its just 2 elements in side edge to side edge contact not in overlap . As for Figure 16a , I think its just an example of when an element can fire and nothing to do with how a normal move without combat can end . But they do overlap each other! Page 10 clearly states " Any enemies in any mutual flank edge contact overlap each other whether in close combat or not." This is unambiguous. Overlap is independent of close combat. It just doesn't mean anything unless there is close combat, where it would provide the tactical factor. I can't see why PB would write this rule in this way unless he specifically wanted elements to be able to move into this position regardless of close combat. I think that it is good to remind ourselves that PB doesn't consider the diagrams the rules but rather just aids to understand the rules. Most of the time this is a moot point but it is important when you need to clear some space for another element to attack the front of the enemy or if you want to exploit a hole in the enemy line with fast moving troops. Maybe this should go to the FAQ committee? Cheers Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 12, 2020 15:38:31 GMT
My HITT armies are 10mm but my DBA armies are 15mm. The blog author's minis are larger, maybe even 20mm?
Cheers
Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 12, 2020 12:58:51 GMT
You can find a HITT variant here that looks interesting: HITT variantCheers Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 12, 2020 12:52:30 GMT
I'm not so sure. Page 9 states "...(d) with no enemy in contact to its front, but in overlap (see p.10)". It doesn't differentiate corner to corner or side to side overlap. Page 10 states "Any enemies in any mutual flank edge contact overlap each other whether in close combat or not."
So I think it is a legal to move into side to side contact without any limitation.
Just my reading of the rules.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 29, 2020 11:01:58 GMT
Hi Simon Not sure. Yes I desperately want to get back playing, but on the other hand, as my microbiologist wife points out, almost the worst case scenario for virus transmission is where you are indoors with a lot of people with minimal ventilation and sitting face to face with someone for an extended period of time, i.e. over 15 mins. On the other hand I think your suggestions are sensible to minimise the risk. I would suggest face masks should be compulsory if people are going to be closer than 2m and in terms of face mask usage there's a video on the following site which explains the do and don'ts www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53954562Basically if people are not wearing them properly or getting hold of the mask to take them on or off or adjust them they become next to useless! I presume touching other stuff is not a problem so long as you don't then put your hands near your nose or mouth but wash or sanitise them thoroughly. The analogy to sports is a bit misleading as I understand that most sports people are being isolated before they play and regularly health checked so they can be reasonably certain no participant is carrying the virus. Sorry to be such a 'downer' but being of a certain age where catching this thing may not be just feeling rubbish for a few days but, even where the risk is minimal, it could lead to some sort of long term organ damage, I'm tending to be a bit careful. Just to clarify, I was thinking of community sports rather than professional sports, (where indeed the players are in a bubble). We are in the middle of a lockdown in Melbourne but we are also planning our way out and my community cricket club is considering the plans that are coming down from government to get us back into some routine. Much will be done to minimise contact and interaction but the ball will still be the ball. Indeed, measures will need to be taken for some time to come to protect us as best as possible for all activities, wargaming included. Compulsory masks is probably a good idea given the average age of wargamers. Like many others, I wear a mask all day at my hospital and I'm now used to it and not expecting it to go away any time soon. But all we can do is follow the health advice with rigour and then leave it to people to make a very personal choice. We can minimise the risk but we won't be able to exclude it. It's the new reality, as they say. But on a brighter note, my painting is catching up and my Sumerians are on the table against NKE as we speak (type). Cheers Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 29, 2020 0:55:57 GMT
The conditions you list sound quite workable. Maybe the loser has to sanitise the table and chairs after each match?  You may not need strict no touch rules, particularly if there is organised sport allowed in the area (I would imagine tennis, rugby, football, cricket players must have to use the same ball), but a nice compromise could be that you must wear disposable gloves when playing. Unfortunately, I'm not leaving Melbourne any time soon. Cheers Jim . |
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 29, 2020 0:43:06 GMT
Stevie, We use your time-of-day display for all our games. Recently we have been using rivers more and find that it's quite hard for the attacker to win because of the time delay in crossing the river. We could always make a custom display with some extra 'hours' to make the game last a bit longer. How did you decide on the number of turns to limit the game to? EDIT: Just spotted your historical notes, which say this: If you find that 10 bounds each is not enough and that night is falling too soon for your liking, try the following:- All the terrain placement and army deployment happens before dawn, so both players will have 12 bounds or periods or ‘hours’ each, and have a DBA game beginning at dawn. Without starting the River discussion again, and given that we are in the "House Rules" section you could try the following: - If the River crosses the battlefield then the attacker can reserve 2-3 elements to be placed on either flank (as per the rules for littoral landing forces) on the attacker's first turn. This can help simulate the attacker scouting and crossing the river upstream. Cheers Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 15, 2020 8:02:18 GMT
In situations where something like this comes up (usually if for instance contact is made and it is split exactly 50-50 as to which way the units conform) we let the ATTACKER decide since they are the bounding player. An excellent rule of thumb! Jim |
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 12, 2020 9:58:40 GMT
I agree that the contact is legal. So I think they would stack up in column. But I don't know who gets to choose which element ends up in front of the column. In the spirit of the game, the log men should choose!
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Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 1, 2020 10:57:57 GMT
...and just to prove that, I'm about to start your diadochoi video!
Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 1, 2020 10:39:06 GMT
Whatever you put on will be click-bait for me! Just finished the Aux video last night>
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Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 1, 2020 1:48:38 GMT
The Sumerians are almost there!
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Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 1, 2020 1:45:46 GMT
It's an interesting video. Your painting is excellent. But as you say, it's a lot of work and many people try to stay with one system. So you could use it for the occasional special when you get a custom order for a pre-made pack. That's unless manufacturers come on board and support you to showcase their figures, both their look, but also their flexibility amongst rulesets.
Keep up the good work! Promoting historical gaming is so important.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by jim1973 on Aug 1, 2020 1:35:10 GMT
I'd say I'll take a look at the video and see if that is consistent with how we play but honestly don't have the time/energy for it when I am putting out NEW content. We just illustrate how WE play and how it is played in the conventions we attend the Eastern US. Some of it might be due to "leftoverisms" from years of 2.2 play. By all means bring it up to the FAQ group and get a definite resolution and we would be happy to follow that in our videos. As I mention in my videos you can play however you'd like. The purpose of my videos is to show that there is a lot of interest in this quirky game despite how the rules are worded. Happy gaming. I'm getting pressed for time keeping up with your videos Tony but keep them coming! Maybe you could do one covering the FAQ for illustration? Cheers Jim |
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