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Post by paulhannah on Dec 28, 2018 15:58:59 GMT
" IV/37c Javanese Army: 1 x General in ceremonial chariot with foot guards (CWg)" Macbeth, or others: How did you model your Javanese CWg element? I have (unpainted) Outpost Miniatures' KHM13 Khmer War Chariot, which looks rather like this. That seems to fit the old, LCh classification but (to me, at least) seems rather lacking in terms of the new classification of a "General in ceremonial chariot". The Commentary in DBM Book-III offers this description: "...a king armed with a spear riding in a chariot...with a streamer decorated standard, a black parasol, and small flags on the front of the vehicle..." So, I'm curious to see how others have approached this modelling challenge. |
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Post by macbeth on Jan 1, 2019 22:56:31 GMT
" IV/37c Javanese Army: 1 x General in ceremonial chariot with foot guards (CWg)" Macbeth, or others: How did you model your Javanese CWg element? I have (unpainted) Outpost Miniatures' KHM13 Khmer War Chariot, which looks rather like this. That seems to fit the old, LCh classification but (to me, at least) seems rather lacking in terms of the new classification of a "General in ceremonial chariot". The Commentary in DBM Book-III offers this description: "...a king armed with a spear riding in a chariot...with a streamer decorated standard, a black parasol, and small flags on the front of the vehicle..." So, I'm curious to see how others have approached this modelling challenge. Ah Paul,
Once again you have caught me out in my lacklustre approach to some of the obscure elements (driven by my lack of skill in modelling and my furious zeal to have every element in an army made up as quickly as I can).
For my Javanese commander I took a chariot model from one of the numerous baggage elements that came with my series of cheap Hall of Ancient Warriors DBA Armies - (Brian would always put a chariot or wagon or similar to use as the camp/baggage) and put one of the Parang wielding Falcon Miniatures Malays in the chariot as the boss man. When DBA3 turned the LCh into a CWg I added some guards on foot on the base.
It seems unlikely that the CWg for the Javanese will ever see the light of day since that promptly removes the only hard hitter (El) from the army.
However I plan to run the Konstantinian Byzantine at Cancon using the CP (Mounted General with Varangian Guard) - as they did tolerably well at Landwaster.
Last year Phil Baldoni did very well with the Papal Italian using his "Pope on a Rope" and he very kindly made the conversion for me with the Xyston Antigonos on a Litter so that my own Papal Italian (3 elements complete) can have their CP.
Last year's club campaign game was the rise of Islam and it included
II/69c Sassanid Persians III/16 Khazar III/25a Arab Conquest
All of which could have Command Positions.
Generally in campaign games the player can choose whatever element to be the general. I ruled that the three armies above could substitute the CP for the whatever the alternative general was (ie the Sassanid is 4Kn or Cv or CP) but if a CP was used then it had to be the general.
It went well, the CPs were used occasionally.
Cheers
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Post by paulhannah on Oct 23, 2020 18:00:49 GMT
II/42c Sinhalese Army 175 BC-300 AD: 1 x General on elephant (El) or in palanquin (Lit) II/42d Sinhalese Army 301-1515 AD: 1 x General on elephant (El) or in palanquin (Lit) Anyone here have any clue (or semi-educated guesses) what a Sinhalese Lit (Gen) element might look like? |
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Post by stevie on Oct 23, 2020 18:29:37 GMT
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Post by paulhannah on Oct 24, 2020 2:10:11 GMT
Thanks. I especially like that last one. If I screw on my best scratch-building cap, it "might" be do-able. --What does anyone think about whether Museum's Z-range Indians would work for Sinhalese? |
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Post by battledamage on Oct 24, 2020 7:49:00 GMT
I like them. They are surprisingly tough, so can be an unexpected tar-pit for an opponent who gets white-line fever and get into combat with them. +6/+4 is not to be sneezed at. They don't recoil and aren't quick killed by Kn. They are also solid Bd, so they give side support to spears and 4Bw. There's a lot to love.... if you don't mind surrendering the initiative a bit.
As MacBeth mentioned, I've had some success with using the Lit(Gen) in my Papal Italians. Probably has more to do with my opponents' relative unfamiliarity with the element (and my 3Kn(Gen) not pursuing into his doom) rather than any skill on my behalf though. But a win is a win  |
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