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Post by primuspilus on Jan 1, 2018 16:08:04 GMT
Stevie is not actually human. The Borg assimilated him a long time ago. He is now part man, part machine, ... all genius.
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Post by stevie on Jan 1, 2018 20:04:44 GMT
Wow Stevie! That's an impressive piece of work. Thank for that effort. Certainly not lazy. Jim Thanks for that…but please remember that it was actually a partnership between myself and Timurilank. In fact he had the hardest job…I just found the errors, he had to propose fixes for each and every one of them. Stevie is not actually human. The Borg assimilated him a long time ago. He is now part man, part machine, ... all genius. What is the leader of the Borg called? He is known as the chairman of the borg. What is their favourite tennis player? Björn Borg. What is their favourite food? Smorgasborg. And while we are at it:- Question: What is the similarity between the starship Enterprise and a toilet roll? Answer: They both get rid of cling-ons… |
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Post by primuspilus on Jan 1, 2018 22:19:48 GMT
ROTFLMAO.... "Chariman of the Borg"  Oh come on, Stevie, you know I surrendered and ceased resistance long ago. Trouble is... the Borg don't want me! I'm too dumb! |
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Post by jim1973 on Jan 2, 2018 4:58:25 GMT
Wow Stevie! That's an impressive piece of work. Thank for that effort. Certainly not lazy. Jim Thanks for that…but please remember that it was actually a partnership between myself and Timurilank. In fact he had the hardest job…I just found the errors, he had to propose fixes for each and every one of them. Stevie is not actually human. The Borg assimilated him a long time ago. He is now part man, part machine, ... all genius. What is the leader of the Borg called? He is known as the chairman of the borg. What is their favourite tennis player? Björn Borg. What is their favourite food? Smorgasborg. And while we are at it:- Question: What is the similarity between the starship Enterprise and a toilet roll? Answer: They both get rid of cling-ons… Then a big thank you to Timurilank as well! Jim |
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Post by paulhannah on Jan 3, 2018 18:32:43 GMT
Have any suggested corrections been made yet to list of opponents of the II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa army? The new "b" sub-list has dates of AD 1285-1529, yet one of its listed opponents, II23a LIPA-Nomad, expired over six centuries prior to the start-date of these latter-day Abyssinians.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 3, 2018 19:37:20 GMT
Have any suggested corrections been made yet to list of opponents of the II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa army? The new "b" sub-list has dates of AD 1285-1529, yet one of its listed opponents, II23a LIPA-Nomad, expired over six centuries prior to the start-date of these latter-day Abyssinians. This seems to have been overlooked as I do not see this listed in the thread.
Looking at the army list book, both II/62a and II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa are listed as opponents for II23a LIPA-Nomad.
Two corrections will be required. II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa must be deleted from II23a LIPA-Nomad. II23a LIPA-Nomad must be deleted from the list of opponents of II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa.
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Post by stevie on Jan 3, 2018 23:45:55 GMT
Whoops! Well spotted paulhannah. Both of timurilank’s adjustments have been added. But I want to add a third adjustment:- II/62b Abyssinian or Horn-of-Africa armies (1285-1529 AD) add II/62b Horn-of-Africa armies (1285-1529 AD). The Horn-of-Africa of this period consisted of various independent Muslim states, the chief of which were the Adal Sultanate, the Ajuran Sultanate, the Warsangali Sultanate, plus several others, that constantly warred with each other and the Ethiopian Abyssinians. (See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuran_Sultanate#/media/File:Ajuuraan2.png ) Major events of this period: in 1332 the King of Adal was slain in a military campaign while trying to halt the Abyssinian King Amda Seyon’s march towards Zeila. In 1445 at the Battle of Gomit, Sultan Bablay of Adal was defeated and slain by Ethiopian Emperor Zara Yaqob. Since we are removing one of the few enemies that army II/62b has, it seems only fitting that we replace this loss with an alternative enemy…albeit a mutually internal one. Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, including the latest June 2017 FAQ and the Quick Reference Sheets from the Society of Ancients:-
fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
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Post by stevie on Jan 4, 2018 23:22:50 GMT
Could someone help me out here... ...as quite frankly these Chinese enemies are doing me head in! Is the following correct? I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) remove II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [date mismatch]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) add Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [the Ch’in crushed the Jung in 315 BC]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) remove Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) remove I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove I/14e Jung or Ch’iang (400–315 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) [date mismatch]
II/21a Ch’iang and Ti Chinese (315 BC–302 AD) remove II/4d Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) [date mismatch]
II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD) change II/4d to II/4e Other Chinese (355 BC–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4e Other Chinese (355–202 BC) add II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295–45 AD) [..for the above..]
Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, including the latest June 2017 FAQ and the Quick Reference Sheets from the Society of Ancients:-
fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
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Post by timurilank on Jan 4, 2018 23:46:24 GMT
Could someone help me out here... ...as quite frankly these Chinese enemies are doing me head in! Is the following correct? I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) remove II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [date mismatch]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) add Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [the Ch’in crushed the Jung in 315 BC]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) remove Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) remove I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove I/14e Jung or Ch’iang (400–315 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) [date mismatch]
II/21a Ch’iang and Ti Chinese (315 BC–302 AD) remove II/4d Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) [date mismatch]
II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD) change II/4d to II/4e Other Chinese (355 BC–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4e Other Chinese (355–202 BC) add II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295–45 AD) [..for the above..]
Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, including the latest June 2017 FAQ and the Quick Reference Sheets from the Society of Ancients:-
fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
Stevie,
I will look to this tomorrow morning after breakfast. At the moment I am enjoying a good Dutch beer and listening to some great music. 
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Post by stevie on Jan 5, 2018 0:29:50 GMT
HA! It's good to see that at least one of us is still working then...  Anyway, here is the full Chinese corrected list:- I/13a Hsia and Shang (2000–1300 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer's (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/13b Shang Chinese (1299–1017 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) remove II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [date mismatch]
I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) change II/4e to II/4d Other Chinese (480–356 BC) [date mismatch]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) add II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [the Ch’in crushed the Jung in 315 BC]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
I/32a Western Chou (1100–701 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/32c Other Chinese (700–480 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/43b Skythian or Early Hu (400–70 AD) add ally I/14e Jung (if Hu) [geographical]
II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) remove I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove I/14e Jung or Ch’iang (400–315 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) [date mismatch]
II/21a Ch’iang and Ti Chinese (315 BC–302 AD) remove II/4d Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) [date mismatch]
II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD) change II/4d to II/4e Other Chinese (355 BC–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4e Other Chinese (355–202 BC) add II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD) [..for the above..] Please say it's all correct, cos I ain't doing it again! Some potentially useful player aids can be found here, including the latest June 2017 FAQ and the Quick Reference Sheets from the Society of Ancients:-
fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2018 8:11:58 GMT
I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) remove II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [date mismatch]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) add Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) [the Ch’in crushed the Jung in 315 BC]
I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC) remove Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
This is the infamous ‘shell and pea’ game. Northern Barbarian Europe switched sub-list numbers with the Asian armies as we moved from DBA 2.2 to 3.0. Dating mismatches resulted from the expansion of the I/14 Northern Barbarian armies from six to seven and new Asian armies were added.
Action:
Remove II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) from I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC).
Add II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) to I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC).
Remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) from I/14e Jung or Ch’iang Chinese (400–315 BC
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2018 8:13:51 GMT
II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC) remove I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove I/14e Jung or Ch’iang (400–315 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) remove II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) [date mismatch]
Correct on the mismatched dates and the Yueh presence on one list seems unlikely due to the distance and number of nations in between.
Action:
Remove I/14d Chinese Border-tribes (2000–401 BC) from II/4a Ch’in Chinese (355–221 BC).
Remove II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC) from II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC).
Remove I/14e Jung or Ch’iang (400–315 BC) from II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC).
Remove II/4b Yueh Chinese (480–333 BC) from II/4c Chao Chinese (307–202 BC).
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2018 8:19:18 GMT
II/21a Ch’iang and Ti Chinese (315 BC–302 AD) remove II/4d Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) [date mismatch]
II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD) change II/4d to II/4e Other Chinese (355 BC–202 BC) [date mismatch]
II/4e Other Chinese (355–202 BC) add II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295–45 AD) [..for the above..]
The II/14d Ch’u Army (480 – 202 BC) listed in 2.2 is now moved to Other Chinese Armies in 3.0. The latter is now divided in two sub-lists, II/4d Other Chinese (480 – 356 BC) and II/4e Other Chinese (355 – 202 BC). All three enemies of the Ch’u Army missed their correct sub-list.
Action:
Remove II/4d Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) from II/21a Ch’iang and Ti Chinese (315 BC–302 AD).
Remove II/4e Other Chinese (480 BC–356 BC) from II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295 BC–45 AD). Add II/29 Tien & K’un-Ming Chinese (295–45 AD) to II/4e Other Chinese (355–202 BC).
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2018 8:28:08 GMT
I/13a Hsia and Shang (2000–1300 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer's (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/13b Shang Chinese (1299–1017 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
These two suffered the same problem due to the rotation of European and Asian sub-list numbers.
Action:
Change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer's (2000–401 BC) for I/13a Hsia and Shang (2000–1300 BC).
Change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) for I/13b Shang Chinese (1299–1017 BC).
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2018 8:41:48 GMT
I/32a Western Chou (1100–701 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/32c Other Chinese (700–480 BC) change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) [geographical]
I/43b Skythian or Early Hu (400–70 AD) add ally I/14e Jung (if Hu) [geographical]
Identical situation for the first two; transposing sub-list numbers between European and Asian armies.
Action:
Change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) for I/32a Western Chou (1100–701 BC).
Change Ally from I/14a to I/14d Chinese Borderer’s (2000–401 BC) for I/32c Other Chinese (700–480 BC).
Add Ally I/14e Jung (if Hu) for I/43b Skythian or Early Hu (400–70 AD).
Also
Remove Ally I/14b from I/43b Skythian or Early Hu (400–70 AD) if not already done so.
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