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Post by vodnik on Apr 2, 2023 9:30:15 GMT
...the battle on the Raxa was fough 955 in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, by Otto I of Germany and his ally Boleslav I of Bohemia against the Obotrite and Veleti federation under Stoigniew. In DBA this battle is best fouzght with 2 armies per side:[/div] Otto I: 1x3Kn(Gen) 5x3Kn, 2x4Bd, 3x4Sp, 1x2Ps and Boleslav I: 1x3Cv(Gen), 1x3Kn, 8x4Sp, 2x2Ps  against Obotrites: 1x3Cv(Gen), 1x3Kn, 8x4Sp, 2x2Ps and Veleti: 1x3Cv(Gen), 1x3Kn, 8x4Sp, 2x 3Bw Bohemia and later Poland adopted Christianity to avoid persecution by the Franks. The other western Slavs preferred paganism. 
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Post by vodnik on Apr 2, 2023 13:42:39 GMT
 ...we mostly know Slavic battles from the descriptions of their opponents; the Franks but also from the Byzantines: Strategikon by Maurikios. During the time of the Carolingians this was mainly: Fredegar but also the Bavarian geographer. Later Helmold of Bosau and Thietmar of Merseburg. In addition, Al-Mas´ûdî has visited Slavic countries... 
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Post by diades on Apr 2, 2023 14:38:33 GMT
Good stuff vodnik …keep it coming…
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Post by vodnik on Apr 3, 2023 9:48:47 GMT
 ...from around 550 AD, Slavic tribes immigrated to Bohemia from the east north of the Carpathians. White Serbs (Sorbs) became their northwestern neighbors. Around the same time, the Avars reached the Carpathian Basin and subjugated their neighbors. Other Slavs went on to settle in Austria and founded Carantania...about 595 AD Carantantanians against Bavarians: DBA: 3/1 Carantanians: forest Ag: 1; 1x3cv(G), 1x3cv, 8x3ax, 2x2ps 2/73 Bavarians: 1x3kn(G), 1x3kn, 7x4wb, 1xlh, 1x2ps 1xps or lh 
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Post by felixs on Apr 3, 2023 10:25:36 GMT
Great stuff.
What maker are the miniatures?
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Post by vodnik on Apr 3, 2023 10:39:56 GMT
...mostly polish figurki from QR miniatures and the others are a gread mix fron Essax, Museum, Donnington, old german Metall Magic...
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Post by jim1973 on Apr 4, 2023 3:34:25 GMT
Very nicely painted! You had me looking at Forged in Battle to make up some Early Slav but also Early Croatian and Serbian armies!
Jim
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Post by vodnik on Apr 4, 2023 6:54:57 GMT
 ...to play larger games i use ADG with dubblebaset units also a mix of supliers with a few FOB...
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Post by felixs on Apr 4, 2023 9:05:18 GMT
...mostly polish figurki from QR miniatures and the others are a gread mix fron Essax, Museum, Donnington, old german Metall Magic... Fascinating stuff!
I have to look into QR Miniatures.
Thank you!
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Post by vodnik on Apr 4, 2023 14:09:24 GMT
598 Carantanians against Lombards use the upper army list for the Carantanians DBA22; 3/21a Lombards: arable Ag: 1; 1x3Kn(G), 7x3Kn, 3x3Bw or 2Ps, 1x3Kn or 4Sp DBA3; 1x3Kn(G), 7x3Kn, 3x3Bw or 2Ps, 1x3Ps o 4Sp
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Post by vodnik on Apr 7, 2023 10:55:18 GMT
623/4 battle at the Waag , in Slovakia somewhere between the mouths of the Kysuca and the Rajčanka. Fighting takes place in the land of the Slavs in the woods. 3/1Slavs unter Samo: Ag: 1: 2xCv(G), 4x3Ax, 4x4Ax, 2x4Bw 3/13 Avars: Ag: 1: x3Cv(G), 6x2Lh On behalf of the Frankish king, Samo organizes the Slavic resistance against the Avars and becomes their leader. Western Slavs became independent.(Chronicle of Fredegar, Book IV, Section 48)
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Post by vodnik on Apr 8, 2023 6:54:11 GMT
... only Charlemagne forced the Slavs to become Christians. But the German Wends stayed true to their true gods...
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Post by vodnik on Apr 9, 2023 8:51:43 GMT
 631 battle of Wogastisburg; The Frankish armies advanced into the area of the Slavic tribal union in three groups - Alamanni, Lombards, and Austrasian Franks. DBA: 3/1a Slavs uner Samo 631/32: Ag: 1: 2x3Cv(G), 7x3Ax, 1x4Bd or 3Cv, 2x2Ps or 3Bw, or my variant of the Waag battle 3/5a Austrasian Franks: 1x3Kl or 3Cv (G), 1x3Kl or 3Cv, 6x4Wb, 3x4Sp o 3Wb, 1x2Ps, use the option of a big battle 
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Post by vodnik on Apr 11, 2023 10:11:43 GMT
 ...the Serbs and Croats are thought by some authorities to have been Sarmatian in origin. They were commissioned by the Byzantine emperorm Herakleios in 627 AD to drive the Avars out of western Illyricum and settle there on condition that they become Christians: ...Croatian but also Serbian are Slavic languages that I understand as a Czech problem. White Croatian is north of Czech Republic and Slovakia in south-west Poland. Because of the Avars, the Serbs and Croats had to use the Moravian Gate to get to Illyria. The tribe of Czech Croats lived in north-eastern Bohemia and north-western Moravia. DBA22; 3/26. Early Serbian 627-1089 or Croatian 627-1180, Ag: 1 (a) Serbian, Hilly: 1x3Kn (Gen), 2x3Kn, 7x3Ax, lx3Bw, lx2Ps. (b) Croatian, Litoral: 1x3Cv (Gen), 2x3Cv, 8x3Ax, lx2Ps. DBA3; Serbian, Hilly: 1x3Kn (Gen), 2x3Kn, 4x3Ax or after 798 Sp, 2x3Ax or 7Hd, 2x3Bw, lx2Ps; Croatian, Litoral: 1x3Cv (Gen), 2x3Cv, 8x4Ax, lx2Ps ...both armies are painted by timurilank years ago...
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Post by vodnik on Apr 13, 2023 6:40:24 GMT
737 Abodrites cross the old Danewerk and sack Ribe in Denmark  DBA: 3/40c Leidang; Ag: 1; 1x4B(G), 2x4Bd, 6x3Ax, 2x2Ps or 3Bw, 1x3Wb or 7Hd 3/1 Abodrite; Ag; 1: 1x3Cv(G), 1x3Cv, 8x3Ax, 2x2Ps
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