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Post by skb777 on Mar 9, 2023 16:17:54 GMT
Does it cost a PIP to turn about face? I'm guessing it would, but i can't find anything in the rules other than tactical move so is it a move as such? After all If you get hit in the rear you turn automatically.
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Post by Baldie on Mar 9, 2023 16:22:25 GMT
It is indeed a move, just remember to measure from front of base.
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Post by skb777 on Mar 9, 2023 16:41:22 GMT
That would be the base width would it not?
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Post by Les1964 on Mar 9, 2023 17:39:32 GMT
That would be the base width would it not? Look on page 16 for measuring examples . |
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Post by skb777 on Mar 9, 2023 21:23:04 GMT
That would be the base width would it not? Look on page 16 for measuring examples . I did hence why I'm here  my learning abilities have always leaned more toward the kinesthetic and visual more than reading |
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Post by Brian Ború on Mar 10, 2023 8:19:54 GMT
Look on page 16 for measuring examples . I did hence why I'm here my learning abilities have always leaned more toward the kinesthetic and visual more than reading The same with me. Especially when I try to read the purple book.  |
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Post by stevie on Mar 10, 2023 9:05:10 GMT
There is a somewhat controversial maneuver that the rules allows
you to make to turn 180° when you only have a speed of 1 BW.
Tactical Movement at the top of page 9 says:-
“Movement is measured in a straight line, from the starting point
of the furthest moving front corner of a single element or group
to that corner’s final position.”
_ _ _ _ _ ↑ _ _ _ _ _ ████_ _ _ _ _
████ ↓
Notice that the left and right front-corners have swapped positions
by moving exactly 1 BW, but the front-edge has stayed in the same
location, as shown by the dashed line.
It will still cost you 1 PIP to do this (or more if out of command range),
but it's the only way an element with a speed of 1 BW can turn 180°.
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Post by sheffmark on Mar 10, 2023 15:18:37 GMT
If you're moving more then 1BW and turning 180 just remember to measure the move diagonally, i.e. the move distance is from where the front left (or right) corner starts, to where it ends up as per example c in Fig 2a on page 16.
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Post by skb777 on Mar 10, 2023 20:42:15 GMT
Gotcha, cheers buddy.
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Post by skb777 on Mar 10, 2023 20:43:59 GMT
I did hence why I'm here my learning abilities have always leaned more toward the kinesthetic and visual more than reading The same with me. Especially when I try to read the purple book. The last time I cried was fractions, that was until said book came along. |
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Post by Brian Ború on Mar 11, 2023 13:08:11 GMT
Clarification needed: These viking 4Bd to the right may move now 1 BW only. They want to wheel to attack the nearest enemy unit. They are in corner to corner contact.  Am I right and their only way of establishing front contact is by turning 90° almost on the spot? |
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Post by stevie on Mar 11, 2023 15:14:44 GMT
Here is my analysis of your situation Brian. Let’s call the top of your picture ‘the North’, so the Vikings are facing ‘South’, and their left front-corner is ‘point-A’ while their right front-corner is ‘point-B’. Imagine that ‘point-A’ moves 1 BW to the West and occupies ‘point-B’s’ position, forcing ‘point-B’ to move 1 BW to the North so it touches the enemy’s front-corner. There you go…the Vikings have turned 90° to face the West, made legal contact, and no front-corner has moved more than 1 BW. |
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Post by martin on Mar 11, 2023 23:11:44 GMT
Here is my analysis of your situation Brian. Let’s call the top of your picture ‘the North’, so the Vikings are facing ‘South’, and their left front-corner is ‘point-A’ while their right front-corner is ‘point-B’. Imagine that ‘point-A’ moves 1 BW to the West and occupies ‘point-B’s’ position, forcing ‘point-B’ to move 1 BW to the North so it touches the enemy’s front-corner. There you go…the Vikings have turned 90° to face the West, made legal contact, and no front-corner has moved more than 1 BW. Inclined to disagree. The vikings’ front left corner would have to move over 1BW to reach the enemy front left corner (1BW sideways and some distance backwards). |
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Post by gregorius on Mar 12, 2023 1:07:40 GMT
Why not move the Bd 1/2 BW backwards and then 1/2 BW to its right to make frontal contact and get the free slide? Unless you don't get the free slide in BG, something that if true, I was unaware of.
Cheers,
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Post by gonatas on Mar 12, 2023 7:02:22 GMT
Hi Stevie
I think Martin is right.
The right hand front corner of the viking is not just moving along the line of the front edge (1Bw) but also 5 or 10mm south.
I would adopt gregorius' solution if combat is necessary.
Regards
Stephen
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