nat
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Post by nat on Nov 23, 2022 20:53:12 GMT
I've recently got back into the hobby and had to decide which armies to start out with. I need to supply both sides so I was aiming for a set of three armies that make interesting historical matchups. I ended up going with Byzantine, Sassanid, and Arab armies of the 7th century, as I am particularly interested in that period, but was wondering what other ideas are out there. I initially wanted to go with Punic armies but didn't like my options for a third army that would make interesting fighting against the Romans and Carthaginians. (Not sure how effective or interesting the ancient Spanish armies are?)
The question then is, does anyone have favorite army triads, wherein each army can fight either of the others in an interesting, hopefully not one-sided, historical match-up?
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Post by Baldie on Nov 23, 2022 21:35:18 GMT
Early Imperial Roman and pretty much a cast of thousands for your other two options, one of which must be Ancient British of course
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Greeks vs well loads of other Greeks
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Post by gregorius on Nov 23, 2022 21:42:28 GMT
My first armies for DBA under 1.0 were Vikings, Normans and Commenian Byzantines. These 3 armies provided lots of enjoyable battles. For 3.0 I'd probably go with Early Crusaders, Seljuk Turks and Cilician Armenians.
Cheers,
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Ainkatsiss
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Nov 23, 2022 22:29:42 GMT
I'm also new, and i've choosen the punic war. Carthaginian and Polybian Roman are the two pillars of course, but the others options around are interesting. Ancient spanishes have multiple very differents lists, and i think at least Lusitanian and Celtiberian have a good value (to learn the game and be different from the others armies). You also have Gallic and Numidian as enemies of both Carthage and Rome. And these two are also very differents.
So of course it is a lot more than a triad, but i've bought an entire Carthaginian and Polybian army, while i'm slowly composing the others options (the 3 Iberian lists, the Gallic and the Numid). So 2 triads ;-)
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Post by kaiphranos on Nov 24, 2022 1:50:11 GMT
My Mesoamerican armies are a triad - III/22c Maya, IV/19a Toltec-Chichimec, and IV/63 Aztec. Alas, my experience so far is that they are not the most balanced - the Aztecs seem to be at an advantage against the other two. (The Toltec-Chichimecs can morph into the IV/19c Tlaxcalan with Spanish allies list, but at that point they are technically no longer given as historical opponents for the Maya.)
My Bronze Age armies form a somewhat tangled web, but I/22b New Kingdom Egyptian, I/24b Later Hittite Imperial, and I/28 Sea Peoples are a triad at the core of it which might be reasonably balanced.
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Post by lkmjbc on Nov 24, 2022 3:35:44 GMT
Alexandrian, Persian, and Greek make a good triad.
Crusaders, Byzantines, Ayyubid makes another.
Hard to beat Norman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking. Of course, you need to add Scots, Welsh, Irish, and French.
Joe Collins
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Post by Haardrada on Nov 24, 2022 7:00:18 GMT
I have a few suggestions from which you can pick three or more armies...
Ghaznavids,Rajput's,Hindu Indian,Tamils and Arab Indians are all interesting armies and most are mutual enemies(except Ghaznavids and Tamils).
Or you can drop the Ghaznavids and add Muslim Indians and possibly Mongols if you use the early Muslim Indian list in a later period,even without the Mongols you have a good range of armies...the Later Muslim Indians picking on most of them.😁
Secondly, the Chinese Sixteen Kingdom period offers several interesting armies...Southern Hsuing nu,Murong Hsein-pi,Other Hsien Pi,Former Ch'in,Northern & Southern Chinese Dynasties and Juan Juan are some of the armies that fought each other in this period....you can even add Ch'iang & Ti armies or Koguryo Koreans.
I also have Normans(Western Franks),Italian Lombards and Early Muslim and North African armies...of which the poor Muslim army is a bit light....but Papal Italian,Communal Italian,Eastern Franks(Holy Roman Empire) or Konstantian Byzantine could be better matches.
As my forum name suggests there is always the 1066AD option...Norman,Anglo-Danish & Vikings.😁
Other choices as suggested could be Greek City state armies as they often fought each other and the Achaemenid Persians.
Or if you are interested in Biblical armies the New Kingdom Egyptians fought several interesting armies...Assyrians,Hittites,Libyans,Hebrews,Arabs and Sea People's to name a few.
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Post by Les1964 on Nov 24, 2022 8:46:43 GMT
One to try from 3000 BC :
I/2a Early Egyptian , I/3 Nubian and I/7a Early Libyan .
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Post by timurilank on Nov 24, 2022 14:31:23 GMT
One to try from 3000 BC : I/2a Early Egyptian , I/3 Nubian and I/7a Early Libyan . Yes, highly recommend this one. |
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Post by Baldie on Nov 25, 2022 6:48:43 GMT
At my local gaming store in Barnsley, the beloved Janco toys, a number of us got armies to play DBA, HC, Lart etc.
We went with the classic triad of enemies, New Kingdom Egyptian, Ancient British and Bactrian Greek.
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Post by menacussecundus on Nov 25, 2022 8:13:49 GMT
My choice of triad would be - and in fact was - the Second Punic War trio of Carthaginian, Roman and Celtiberian. This was under 2.2, when the Celtiberians had 6 elements of Wb and when Wb could double move into contact. They now have a fairly meaty 6 elements of Fast Bd.
Plus you have to love an army which hired itself out to both the others, but which was quite capable of taking the view that its contractual obligations had been met simply by turning up on the battlefield and didn't necessarily include doing any fighting (unless that is later Roman propaganda).
Adding Gauls would give a 4-way fight - or you could have Numidians rather than Celtiberians as the third army.
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Post by martin on Nov 25, 2022 9:15:24 GMT
At my local gaming store in Barnsley, the beloved Janco toys, a number of us got armies to play DBA, HC, Lart etc. We went with the classic triad of enemies, New Kingdom Egyptian, Ancient British and Bactrian Greek. ….not that old favourite - Viking, Aztec, Samurai??? |
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Post by Baldie on Nov 25, 2022 9:15:35 GMT
My choice of triad would be - and in fact was - the Second Punic War trio of Carthaginian, Roman and Celtiberian. This was under 2.2, when the Celtiberians had 6 elements of Wb and when Wb could double move into contact. They now have a fairly meaty 6 elements of Fast Bd. Plus you have to love an army which hired itself out to both the others, but which was quite capable of taking the view that its contractual obligations had been met simply by turning up on the battlefield and didn't necessarily include doing any fighting (unless that is later Roman propaganda). Adding Gauls would give a 4-way fight - or you could have Numidians rather than Celtiberians as the third army. Lots of opportunities for double dealing all round |
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Ainkatsiss
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Nov 25, 2022 10:28:32 GMT
One to try from 3000 BC : I/2a Early Egyptian , I/3 Nubian and I/7a Early Libyan . Yes, highly recommend this one. Why ? (i'm new, and i'm always looking for future projects ^^) |
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nat
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Post by nat on Nov 25, 2022 15:02:07 GMT
My choice of triad would be - and in fact was - the Second Punic War trio of Carthaginian, Roman and Celtiberian. This was under 2.2, when the Celtiberians had 6 elements of Wb and when Wb could double move into contact. They now have a fairly meaty 6 elements of Fast Bd. Plus you have to love an army which hired itself out to both the others, but which was quite capable of taking the view that its contractual obligations had been met simply by turning up on the battlefield and didn't necessarily include doing any fighting (unless that is later Roman propaganda). Adding Gauls would give a 4-way fight - or you could have Numidians rather than Celtiberians as the third army. I think you've sold me on this as my next period. I haven't played with 3Bd before.. is it significantly different to play than the Iberian 3/4Aux army?
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