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Post by goldenhord on Sept 23, 2021 20:20:00 GMT
Does a column composed of 2 or 3 elements ?
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 20:25:03 GMT
Two or more… simples 😝
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Post by menacussecundus on Sept 23, 2021 20:26:06 GMT
My understanding is that a column can be as few as 2 elements deep; one behind the other. It can also be deeper; 3, 4, 5 up to a maximum of 12.
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 20:27:05 GMT
My understanding is that a column can be as few as 2 elements deep; one behind the other. It can also be deeper; 3, 4, 5 up to a maximum of 12. A 12 element deep column- now that, I’d love to see 🤣 P
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Post by menacussecundus on Sept 23, 2021 20:33:49 GMT
My understanding is that a column can be as few as 2 elements deep; one behind the other. It can also be deeper; 3, 4, 5 up to a maximum of 12. A 12 element deep column- now that, I’d love to see 🤣 P Give me the PIPs and I'll see what I can manage.
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Post by goldenhord on Sept 23, 2021 20:35:29 GMT
page 8 last $ "the leading element move forward, the otherS successively join behind it" so the minimum with a S of a column is 3 and not 2 ! by the way a column could not recoil as a group could do! so i strongly disagree with your post.
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 20:50:00 GMT
A 12 element deep column- now that, I’d love to see 🤣 P Give me the PIPs and I'll see what I can manage. What a shame that we won’t be playing one another this weekend… P
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 20:50:34 GMT
page 8 last $ "the leading element move forward, the otherS successively join behind it" so the minimum with a S of a column is 3 and not 2 ! by the way a column could not recoil as a group could do! so i strongly disagree with your post. Feel free, but you’ll be a lone voice… P
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Post by menacussecundus on Sept 23, 2021 20:51:14 GMT
page 8 last $ "the leading element move forward, tghe otherS successively join behind it" so the minimum withan of a column is 3 and not 2 ! by the way a column could not recoil as a group could do! so i strongly disagree with your post. That is the specific instance of a group reducing its frontage to form a column. The plural "others" includes the singular ("other"). Obviously if there are only two elements in the group to start with, there is only one other element. Are you seriously contending that a two-deep column of, say, warband cannot move through bad going or a non-paltry river as a group?
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Post by cgd on Sept 23, 2021 21:02:31 GMT
There is actually a column definition in the book, rather clear on my opinion. p. 8, antepenultimate paragraph, line 2, it is written : A column is a group only one element wide.
p. 8, former sentence : A group is a contiguous set of elements all facing in the same direction, with each in both edge and corner-to-corner contact with another [...]
Isn't it ?
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 21:08:15 GMT
And look at the text for figure 14b, which states the two Pk as a column.
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Post by goldenhord on Sept 23, 2021 21:32:04 GMT
this not obviously as you said as the leading elment could be consider alone and the others are diffrent. Use the book if you want tro argue not just sentence. I never said so; I just said that a column is 3 elements minimum composed as stated in many pages in the book rules and not only 2. A group is 2 elements minimum based and a column is 3 element minimum. Just show me wher in teh book it could be wrong ?
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Post by goldenhord on Sept 23, 2021 21:34:43 GMT
figure 14 b said a g(roup when talking of 2 elemnts and a columln when talking of 3 elements.
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Post by goldenhord on Sept 23, 2021 21:44:08 GMT
one element wide is a column we agree but not the lenght
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Post by paulisper on Sept 23, 2021 21:47:10 GMT
figure 14 b said a g(roup when talking of 2 elemnts and a columln when talking of 3 elements. Errr… no - look again… P
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