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Post by diades on Nov 21, 2017 22:09:36 GMT
Thanks MM Yep, it was the Ps, and I also had an element of uncertainty about the direction it fled. As far as you remember, should it have fled towards table edge*, rather than towards table centre and river, as actually was done?? A rethink suggests you may have highlighted another hole in my understanding of the rules . Lack of PIPage meant it would have played little further part in that particular game anyway, but nice to know for future reference. Martin S * ie in the direction it originally faced before the shot on its rear...... My recollection was that it was facing towards the board edge with the bows to its rear, so I believe it should have fled towards that edge. I was surprised to find it later in the middle of the board. For the shot to have been possible, the way it appears to have been moved, it must have fled with its front corner grazing all across the shooting element's front edge? If that had happened it would have to have stopped and lined up to combat next bound. By the way, this decision was a great deal easier than some of the Warwagon ones posed on the day!
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Post by diades on Nov 19, 2017 11:01:12 GMT
Pencilled in for me too. Looks like fun!
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Post by diades on Nov 19, 2017 10:58:13 GMT
I believe this thread stems from a recent event at which I was adjudicator. I ruled as per Joe Collins and allowed the shot. It is a rule mechanic. It is far from the only rule that makes little logical sense at first thought. If we use the lines from the extremes of the shooting and target edges and there is less than half a base width of terrain encountered, but there is more than half a base width over the entire area between, the situation is little different to that illustrated. Similarly if the lines are blocked, but the entire area between is not, what sense is there in not permitting the shot?
I believe the target was a Psiloi, which fled. I may have had an issue with how that was handled, but wasn't watching at the time the shot was resolved....Flee from shooting on rear edge...about face then flee....the first part of flee is about face, so if fleeing, the element turns a full circle and still moves away from the source of the shooting! Or maybe that was what happened...
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Post by diades on Nov 12, 2017 12:21:12 GMT
Thank you all for travelling. It was fun to run and without the pressure of playing at the same time. I will consider leader board displays, although not everyone will wish it publicised....
Basic results follow. There are plenty of data, so if you would like to know more, ask away!
1st 14 points Mark Johnson (Hussite IV/80 11 points)
2nd 13 points Mark Skelton (Skythians I/43 + Rhodian LHG 12 points)
3rd 11 points Scott Russell (Early Crusader IV/7 10 points)
4th 9 points Oli Curant (Attila's Huns II/80a 3 points)
5th 9 points Colin O'Shea (Norse Irish III/46 10 points) 6th 9 points Phil Steele (Mongols IV/35 13 points)
7th 8 points Richard Pulley (South Welsh III/19b 13 points)
8th 7 points Pete Duckworth (Picts II/68 + Scots Irish + Old Saxon 8 points)
9th 7 points Alan Davison (Carolingian Frankish III/28 7 points)
10th 6 points Martin Smith (Anglo-Danish III/72 + Welsh 4 points)
11th 6 points Matthew Davison (Alexandrian Imperial II/15 0 points)
12th 4 points Kev Casey (Italian Condotta IV/61 12 points)
1st 13 points South Welsh III/19b (Richard Pulley)
2nd 13 points Mongols IV/35 (Phil Steele)
3rd 12 points Italian Condotta IV/61 (Kev Casey)
4th 12 points Skythians I/43 + Rhodian LHG (Mark Skelton)
5th 11 points Hussite IV/80 (Mark Johnson)
6th 10 points Early Crusader IV/7 (Scott Russell)
7th 10 points Norse Irish III/46 (Colin O’Shea)
8th 8 points Picts II/68 + Scots Irish + Old Saxon (Pete Duckworth)
9th 7 points Carolingian Frankish III/28 (Alan Davison)
10th 4 points Anglo-Danish III/72 + Welsh (Martin Smith)
11th 3 points Attila's Huns II/80a (Oli Curant)
12th 0 points Alexandrian Imperial II/15 (Matthew Davison)
In addition the Slayer trophy goes to the player in whose games the greatest total of elements were destroyed, including hordes and scythed chariots, but with no extras for generals or double ranked elements. The winner was Scott Russell on 47.
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Post by diades on Nov 5, 2017 16:23:50 GMT
Surprisingly I found myself equal second in the group, three winning draws and two wins, to Bill’s three wins and a draw. Bill kindly resolved that my winning draw in our encounter gave me right to go through to the semi-finals. Kindness had nothing to do with it. The head-to-head result was teh tie-breaker under the tournament rules. Fair comment. Bill's "kindly" resolution can refer to his doing all the hard tournament organising work for us others. 😀 Thanks.
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Post by diades on Nov 5, 2017 11:16:59 GMT
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Post by diades on Nov 5, 2017 11:12:32 GMT
Colin Agreed. I asked the same question on the SOA forum a year or so ago. I got some useful replies. I will look them up....
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Post by diades on Nov 4, 2017 13:26:41 GMT
An excellent event, here's hoping I can attend!
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Post by diades on Nov 4, 2017 13:25:07 GMT
Currently expected:
Kevin Casey David Constable Alan Davison Matthew Davison Pete Duckworth Mark Johnson Arnaud Marmier Neil Mason Colin O'Shea Richard Pulley Scott Russell Mark Skelton Martin Smith
With mustrum and Phil Steele 'possibles' Should be fun. My army and terrain selected, should I be required to play. Aiming for a 1000 start, so please try and arrive to register by then. Remember you may specify the board size to be used should your army defend. Please note, however if the size is not 600x600 you will need to supply the board! If any of you could bring a few spare boards anyway that would be much appreciated.
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Post by diades on Oct 31, 2017 19:44:08 GMT
Firstly thank you to all at PAWS and SoA for organising and supporting the UK DBA League.
Sunday’s English Open represented the final event of the “season”.
An early arrival enabled a very welcome chance to catch up with friends.
With the groups for the group stage being determined by Army date, after taking Italian Lombards last year and finding myself in the early group, I was nervous until the final competitor arrived this year, as with Ancient Britons I was on the cusp of being in the later group! I took Cartimandua’s Brigantes, LCh (gen), 2 x LH, 6 x 3Wb with EIR allies 2 x 4Bd and 1 x Art. Despite an Aggression of 0, I attacked in all but the first and last group games.
First, against Colin’s Celtiberians, I made too much use of an initial 6 PIPs, complemented by Colin’s shortage of PIPs to result in a stand off with my warband in bad terrain and Colin in line awaiting my emergence. This would have been a fantastic game that needed twice as much time as we had. It ended with me 2-0 up thanks to a late artillery strike on an Iberian Light Horse, the only element my artillery destroyed all day…
Secondly, I faced Lindon’s Neo-Babylonians. Lindon charged his two Heavy Chariots straight over a gentle hill into my blades. Although he bounced, my artillery had no effect and he charged once more. This time the general broke through, but was met by double ranked Light Horse with both flanks covered. Things didn't progress a great deal further to end 2G-1 at “time”.
Next, Bill’s Warring States Chinese. We both went at this fairly aggressively, but we both proved to have surprisingly resilient elements. Much of the damage done by Bill was down to his Heavy Chariot, which was again despatched (eventually) by double ranked Light Horse behind my lines. Time won again and a 3-2 draw. Lunchtime and complaining about three winning draws on the basis of more time would have allowed entertaining games to finish, in all cases with either side winner…I made the foolish call that I would be going home after the group stages.
After lunch I played Paul Clair’s Ptolemaics. A waterway on my right, I deployed in a group to the left. A 3 x 4Ax littoral landing supported by an Elephant storming down the road behind them deep into my half and a Knight put me in trouble. My artillery continued to recoil enemy to at least delay things on my left. Eventually my Light Horse hightailed it left to right to take on the Elephant and my general squared up to the knight whilst single deep Warband met the Auxillia. In the final bound the luck went my way and I ended 4-0 victor.
Finally against Martin Smith’s Philistines, we clashed to one side of a small central edifice after some initial skirmishing over a steep hill on Martin’s deployed left, which had gone his way. Ultimately the luck ran my way in the centre and I emerged victor.
Surprisingly I found myself equal second in the group, three winning draws and two wins, to Bill’s three wins and a draw. Bill kindly resolved that my winning draw in our encounter gave me right to go through to the semi-finals
The Semi-final was against new SoA League Champion Mark Skelton, who had won the other group. We had identical hoplite armies, but Mark was Littoral, whilst I was Arable. I Defended. I chose to deploy a Waterway, to see if I could tempt him into splitting his forces. I also placed a river and a small wood; the plough amounted to nowt. I ended defending the river with the Waterway on my left and the wood on the far bank on my left a couple of basewidths in from the waterway. Mark landed two Spear and a Psiloi on his side of the river and sent the Psiloi into the woods. I waited on the riverbank until Mark was close and then sent an Auxilia across the paltry river to tackle the Psiloi, my other more mobile troops crossed on the right to outflank Mark. The right flanking went Mark’s way and his cavalry sped across the river to tackle my camp. Meanwhile much pushing and shoving of hoplites in and out of the river. My auxilia eventually pushed the Psiloi out of the Woods and with their own Psiloi support started emerging from the Woods on Mark’s right. My camp proving resilient and eventually destroying the cavalry threat saved the day for me before luck went dramatically my way for a 4-3 win, a thrilling match.
The Final was against Phil’s Thebans. Phil defended a bowling green and deployed with 2 x 8Sp in the centre. I deployed on the right with alternate double ranks to enable refusing my left. We both took our light troops to our right, Phil to attack my camp and me to outflank his hoplite line. Whilst I lost the initial encounters on my right, my camp also repulsed the Psiloi attack from Phil. Ultimately my right won through and Phil’s light troops on his right were routed to give me a 4-2 victory before the 8Sp could do much.
Thanks all for a great day. Thank you to Magister Militum for the voucher prize. I am reliant on others for any photographs...
The new season starts on 11th November in Tarrington, where I will host the annual “scramble” .
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Post by diades on Oct 27, 2017 17:26:19 GMT
Currently on is the exhibition: Scythians: warriors of ancient Siberia, until 14th January 2018.
Trading on the Game of Thrones Dothraki imagery, this is an amazing display covering the east and west extents of the scythians' domain. Permafrost preserved burials have revealed a wealth of material (literally).
Items include:
gold plaques, buckles and horse tack, false beards, colourful leather bag containing cheese (2300 years old!), headgear for people and for horses, swords, axes, bows, armour...
The metal work is accompanied by magnified X-rays and proposed manufacture techniques. There are colourful reconstruction illustrations. Exhibits also cover the world with which they traded, including china, Achaemenid Persia and Bactria.
I spent a good hour going round. Thoroughly recommended if you get the chance. I may even have been inspired enough to paint up an army!
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Post by diades on Oct 27, 2017 17:00:34 GMT
Bill, I will be travelling down on the morning targetting a 1000 arrival. I have emailed my Army choice and date. What time would you estimate the group stages will complete?
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Post by diades on Oct 16, 2017 11:59:32 GMT
Curious! At the other UK Matched Pairs Tournament where you bring your own pair (as opposed to the Northern where it is all prepared beautifully for you), Alton, you know you will play six rounds; three with your opponent choosing from your pair of armies and three where you will be presented a pair to choose from. How did Bakewell operate if some players only used their own pair twice and chose four times?
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Post by diades on Oct 3, 2017 19:08:31 GMT
Should be there. It is clock move weekend... I need to know the start time for planning purposes.
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Post by diades on Sept 29, 2017 19:31:49 GMT
Enjoying some light relief: now on Book 2 of the Leopards of Normandy by David Churchill.
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