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Post by martin on Oct 1, 2017 10:12:26 GMT
Couldn't find a thread, so just a heads up:- talked briefly to Bill yesterday, who was suggesting a start at around 10:00 a.m. for the Open in four weeks time. Usual venue- the Stacey Centre, Copnor , Portsmouth.
Can we firm up the details, please?
cheers
Martin
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Post by mustrum on Oct 1, 2017 19:22:06 GMT
I shall be there
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Post by diades on Oct 3, 2017 19:08:31 GMT
Should be there. It is clock move weekend... I need to know the start time for planning purposes.
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Post by pawsbill on Oct 3, 2017 22:35:14 GMT
We will go with the same arrangements as last year. Booking in from 9:30 to 10:00 GMT to try and get games started by 10:30.
I have updated the PAWS website with details at portsmouthwargames.wordpress.com/2017-english-dba-open/
As always, we will be a bit flexible with this booking in period (especially as we know some definite attendees have a long haul to get there), but organising the groups and draw does take a little time. So if you are definitely coming you can email me or text me the day before with your army choice (including any date options that might affect army composition, terrain or aggression) and that will allow me to include you in the draw and allow you to arrive nearer 10:30.
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Post by hodsopa on Oct 8, 2017 12:27:58 GMT
I will be there, Bill, and am looking forward to it.
The PAWS website says "initially players will use their own army". Do we use it through the whole competition?
What is the typical end time?
Yours,
Paul H
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Post by menacussecundus on Oct 9, 2017 8:02:04 GMT
I will be there, Bill, and am looking forward to it. The PAWS website says "initially players will use their own army". Do we use it through the whole competition? What is the typical end time? Yours, Paul H Paul The initial rounds are with one's own army. The top four players then go on to contest semi-finals and the final using themed armies provided by PAWS. (First place finisher in the initial rounds has first choice of army, second placed player goes next; fourth placed has Hobson's choice.) I'm not sure whether or not there is a third place play-off and I've no idea what time it usually finishes. Denis
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Post by martin on Oct 9, 2017 8:49:08 GMT
That was Hobson's Choice, by the way, Paul, not Hodson's Choice......subtle difference I'll be there. Army still to be painted, or failing that (and work getting in the way, as per) to be picked from other options....... cheers Martin
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Post by martin on Oct 9, 2017 13:24:32 GMT
Paul From memory, previous semis and final theme have involved WotR India 13C (Rajputs/Hindu Indian/Tamil etc) Teutonics/Prussians/Lithuanians etc Aztecs and 'friends'/bodypart donors
Martin
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Post by hodsopa on Oct 9, 2017 19:22:07 GMT
Sounds great! I suspect, as they say in cricket, that I won't be troubling the WotR.
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Post by phippsy on Oct 9, 2017 19:55:35 GMT
Unfortunately will have to miss this excellent event this year. Warmer climes are booked on one of Martin's fleet...will be looking out for photos and reports.
Pete
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Post by diades on Oct 27, 2017 17:00:34 GMT
Bill, I will be travelling down on the morning targetting a 1000 arrival. I have emailed my Army choice and date. What time would you estimate the group stages will complete?
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Post by martin on Oct 30, 2017 8:18:33 GMT
Had to scarper, due travel arreangements for 'herself's' birthday, so missed the end. What happened at the end , guys, pleeeez ??
My Philistines were suitably smoted by all and sundry (5/5....quite a run for them), but good matches nonetheless.
Thanks to Bill and co for organising, and the Society of Ancients for trophies, plus of course
MAGISTER MILITUM
for their generous sponsorship.
Cheers
Martin (of Gath, perhaps....)
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Post by pawsbill on Oct 30, 2017 16:19:51 GMT
12 players, divided into 2 groups by dates.
Group A Martin Smith I/29a Philistines Lindon Paxton I/44a Neo Babylonian Bill MacGillivray II/4c Warring States Chao Chinese Paul Clair II/20b Ptolemaic Colin O'Shea II/39b Celtiberian Martin Myers II/53 Ancient British (Brigantes, with EIR allies)
Group B Phil Steele II/55b Blemmye Oli Curant III/34a Andalusian Mark Skelton III/50 Zanj Revolt Paul Hodson IV/18 Lithuanian Richard Pulley IV/54b Medieval Scandinavian Union Terry Ellis IV/82a French Ordonnance
After each player played against the 5 others in his group, the two group winners, Colin O'Shea and Mark Skelton, played semi-finals against the runners-up of the opposite group, Phil Steele and Martin Myers. For these semi-finals and the following final, players selected from a list of II/5 Later Hoplite Greek armies provided (II/5a Sparta, II/5b Athens, II/5c Thebes, II/5d Thessaly, II/5e Aitolia, II/5i Rhodian or II/5i other Greek states).
The semi-final winners were the two group runners up, so Phil Steele and Martin Myers played out the final, with Martin emerging as champion.
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Post by diades on Oct 31, 2017 19:44:08 GMT
Firstly thank you to all at PAWS and SoA for organising and supporting the UK DBA League.
Sunday’s English Open represented the final event of the “season”.
An early arrival enabled a very welcome chance to catch up with friends.
With the groups for the group stage being determined by Army date, after taking Italian Lombards last year and finding myself in the early group, I was nervous until the final competitor arrived this year, as with Ancient Britons I was on the cusp of being in the later group! I took Cartimandua’s Brigantes, LCh (gen), 2 x LH, 6 x 3Wb with EIR allies 2 x 4Bd and 1 x Art. Despite an Aggression of 0, I attacked in all but the first and last group games.
First, against Colin’s Celtiberians, I made too much use of an initial 6 PIPs, complemented by Colin’s shortage of PIPs to result in a stand off with my warband in bad terrain and Colin in line awaiting my emergence. This would have been a fantastic game that needed twice as much time as we had. It ended with me 2-0 up thanks to a late artillery strike on an Iberian Light Horse, the only element my artillery destroyed all day…
Secondly, I faced Lindon’s Neo-Babylonians. Lindon charged his two Heavy Chariots straight over a gentle hill into my blades. Although he bounced, my artillery had no effect and he charged once more. This time the general broke through, but was met by double ranked Light Horse with both flanks covered. Things didn't progress a great deal further to end 2G-1 at “time”.
Next, Bill’s Warring States Chinese. We both went at this fairly aggressively, but we both proved to have surprisingly resilient elements. Much of the damage done by Bill was down to his Heavy Chariot, which was again despatched (eventually) by double ranked Light Horse behind my lines. Time won again and a 3-2 draw. Lunchtime and complaining about three winning draws on the basis of more time would have allowed entertaining games to finish, in all cases with either side winner…I made the foolish call that I would be going home after the group stages.
After lunch I played Paul Clair’s Ptolemaics. A waterway on my right, I deployed in a group to the left. A 3 x 4Ax littoral landing supported by an Elephant storming down the road behind them deep into my half and a Knight put me in trouble. My artillery continued to recoil enemy to at least delay things on my left. Eventually my Light Horse hightailed it left to right to take on the Elephant and my general squared up to the knight whilst single deep Warband met the Auxillia. In the final bound the luck went my way and I ended 4-0 victor.
Finally against Martin Smith’s Philistines, we clashed to one side of a small central edifice after some initial skirmishing over a steep hill on Martin’s deployed left, which had gone his way. Ultimately the luck ran my way in the centre and I emerged victor.
Surprisingly I found myself equal second in the group, three winning draws and two wins, to Bill’s three wins and a draw. Bill kindly resolved that my winning draw in our encounter gave me right to go through to the semi-finals
The Semi-final was against new SoA League Champion Mark Skelton, who had won the other group. We had identical hoplite armies, but Mark was Littoral, whilst I was Arable. I Defended. I chose to deploy a Waterway, to see if I could tempt him into splitting his forces. I also placed a river and a small wood; the plough amounted to nowt. I ended defending the river with the Waterway on my left and the wood on the far bank on my left a couple of basewidths in from the waterway. Mark landed two Spear and a Psiloi on his side of the river and sent the Psiloi into the woods. I waited on the riverbank until Mark was close and then sent an Auxilia across the paltry river to tackle the Psiloi, my other more mobile troops crossed on the right to outflank Mark. The right flanking went Mark’s way and his cavalry sped across the river to tackle my camp. Meanwhile much pushing and shoving of hoplites in and out of the river. My auxilia eventually pushed the Psiloi out of the Woods and with their own Psiloi support started emerging from the Woods on Mark’s right. My camp proving resilient and eventually destroying the cavalry threat saved the day for me before luck went dramatically my way for a 4-3 win, a thrilling match.
The Final was against Phil’s Thebans. Phil defended a bowling green and deployed with 2 x 8Sp in the centre. I deployed on the right with alternate double ranks to enable refusing my left. We both took our light troops to our right, Phil to attack my camp and me to outflank his hoplite line. Whilst I lost the initial encounters on my right, my camp also repulsed the Psiloi attack from Phil. Ultimately my right won through and Phil’s light troops on his right were routed to give me a 4-2 victory before the 8Sp could do much.
Thanks all for a great day. Thank you to Magister Militum for the voucher prize. I am reliant on others for any photographs...
The new season starts on 11th November in Tarrington, where I will host the annual “scramble” .
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Post by martin on Nov 2, 2017 9:53:32 GMT
Colin's Celtiberians face Diades' Brits Phil's Blemmye camp Philistines set off to be smoted mightily Photo's from the day now in a Yahoo DBA Group album. Pls add if you can, especially any presentation pics. Cheers M
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