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Post by glenbrooks on Aug 27, 2017 18:03:32 GMT
Hi Lads new to ver 3, am now starting a xystron 15mm marian roman, celt and Macedonian army, just starting reading the rules for basing, just asking whats the normal for the pikes? 15mm or 20mm depth? and same for the blades 15mm or 20mm? both will be solid
thanks glen
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Post by twrnz on Aug 27, 2017 19:43:48 GMT
Glen,
Welcome to DBA & to this forum.
Solid Blade & Solid Pike are four per base, fast are three. Solid can be on 15mm or 20mm deep bases when using 15mm scale miniatures.
Most people's older armies are on 15mm deep bases as until DBA version 3.0 that was the standard. The increased base depths of DBA 3.0 were introduced to more easily accomodate the more animated 15mm figures that are increasingly available today.
Personally my new armies armies that contain solid pike, blade, warband or spear are using the 20mm deep base sizes.
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Post by Simon on Aug 27, 2017 19:50:19 GMT
I also find that 20mm depth makes the stands a bit more stable - especially if with long pikes on hills!
Simon
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Post by glenbrooks on Aug 27, 2017 19:52:52 GMT
Thanks lads for the fast reply... looks like 20mm depth it will be
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Post by Haardrada on Aug 27, 2017 19:54:46 GMT
I had all my 15mm Pk on 15mm bases and have changed them to 20mm...they don't fall over as much.😊
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Post by bob on Aug 27, 2017 23:50:32 GMT
I have way too many figures to convert the heavy infantry to 20 mm deep. Maybe if I were starting now instead of 20 years ago I might do the deeper ones. However I do like the look of solid infantry on the narrow bases, and the fast infantry on the deep base. I use fairly heavy material to do the basing and shallow Hills so I don't have a tipping problem.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 28, 2017 5:16:04 GMT
Personally, having just started actually painting and basing figures a couple of years ago, I have too many 15mm bases to not use them. And I still like to be able to tell the Solid from Fast without having to be told.
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Post by macbeth on Aug 28, 2017 5:33:09 GMT
I am too old to change - plus with 100+ armies (60 of them fully up to DBA3 code) I am not going to rebase the solid foot.
As I like to use the armies in campaign sets I am not going to start new armies with solid foot on deeper bases in case they finish up in a set with earlier forces.
And with this momentous post I am promoted to Centurion
Cheers
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Aug 28, 2017 20:38:15 GMT
I like the Solid Foot as well on 15mm.
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Post by goragrad on Aug 29, 2017 11:29:44 GMT
Actually, I miswrote - meant to put AX vs SP or BD.
Just getting ready to rebase some Han SP from 15s to 20s as they are now AX.
Might be handy with some armies to have SP on 20s to use the same elements as AX for a variant. But as I noted, being able to tell from the base depth makes it a lot more convenient in a battle.
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Post by bob on Aug 29, 2017 19:17:41 GMT
I have a large sub Roman British collection in which there are options for spear or solid auxilia. I cannot find much difference in how these different types look. So I mounted 4 figures with spears on a shallow base and made a separate base that is deep. The deep base is a piece of metal equal to a deep base with a strip of balsa in the front such that the area of a shallow base is exposed. My figures are based on magnetic pieces, so I can stick a spear on the Sabot base and convert it to an auxilia. here is an example of a similar conversion for a 25 mm Pict fast pike to a HOTT Lurker.  |
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Post by goragrad on Aug 30, 2017 7:37:00 GMT
Nice work on that base Bob.
I got some Early Arab camels that he wasn't using from a club member. Based i think for WRG or maybe DBA 1.0 that were on based magnetic strips with a lacquer/varnish coat.
I am rebasing them and looked at the magnetic strips and think I can use them to provide temporary bases for double elements of SP or BD. Possibly even 8BW.
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Post by paddy649 on Aug 31, 2017 10:03:33 GMT
As a newcomer to DBA 3.0 can I just clarify that, for 15mm, while "Fast" foot should be 3 per base on 40mm x 20mm base and "Solid" foot should be 4 per base on a 20mm x 40mm base, in practice "Solid" foot 4 per base on a 15mm x 40mm base is entirely acceptable.
Given that my armies were based for WRG 7th edn / DBA v 1.0 many moons ago then my "Solid" foot are 4 per base on 20mm or 15mm x 40mm bases depending on whether they were "regular" or "irregular" and I should leave them lime this unless I need to rebase for other reasons I need to rebase - and then migrating to 20mm bases would be sensible....even if this means that for some armies I have a mixed economy.
Hence I'm thinking that this issue is not really worth losing any sleep over!
Paddy
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Post by primuspilus on Aug 31, 2017 12:15:37 GMT
You know, Paddy, there isn't a reason in DBA 3 that I can think of to prevent alternative base depths generally. As an example, I have had Persian 8Bw based on 40x30mm, for instance. It just looked right to me, and played fine. Someone could argue that they are stronger now on a flank attack at the end of a line, due to having a recoil now, but that is an easy enough fix if it really bothers you.
I think 40x20 work great for foot, since for a lot of 15mm figures these days, 40x15 has a fair bit of figure overhang to contend with...
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