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Post by wombatdazzler on Dec 5, 2016 21:56:44 GMT
Hi All,
A BUA needs to be wholly within 6BW of the 2 Battlefield edges.
If I place a WW does that count as the Edge of the Battlefield?
Just need clarification on where the edge is?
Cheers and tks in advance
Daz
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Post by timurilank on Dec 5, 2016 22:28:53 GMT
Hi All, A BUA needs to be wholly within 6BW of the 2 Battlefield edges. If I place a WW does that count as the Edge of the Battlefield? Just need clarification on where the edge is? Cheers and tks in advance Daz For Arable terrain, the BUA is placed first and the waterway second, this should pose no problem given the size allowances for the it. The order of placement would be reversed for Littoral with the BUA board edge as reference points.
Living in the Netherlands we would have no problem with a BUA placed on the water, simply use a causeway (road) to connect it with dry land.
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Post by martin on Dec 5, 2016 23:12:31 GMT
Waterways ALWAYS get placed first (arable or littoral)....see terrain placement section....and yes, a Fort or City BUA has to be within 6BW of the BOARD edge (no reference to the waterway), so sometimes a deep waterway can make it hard to fit a big fort/city onto the board, if the waterway is wide at that point.
NB- hamlet and edifice BUAs aren't restricted to the outer 6BW sections.
Martin
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Post by wombatdazzler on Dec 5, 2016 23:59:49 GMT
unfortunately that was what I also thought would count as the board edge. May need to make a new BUA.
Cheers
Daz
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Post by bob on Dec 6, 2016 3:48:47 GMT
When you write "BUA", do you mean city, fort,edifice, or Hamlet?
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Post by wombatdazzler on Dec 6, 2016 4:17:08 GMT
Yep. Mainly the requirement for a BUA to be within 6BW of the table edge.
I am mainly interested in City and Fort options.
Cheers
Daz
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Post by timurilank on Dec 6, 2016 7:40:50 GMT
Waterways ALWAYS get placed first (arable or littoral)....see terrain placement section....and yes, a Fort or City BUA has to be within 6BW of the BOARD edge (no reference to the waterway), so sometimes a deep waterway can make it hard to fit a big fort/city onto the board, if the waterway is wide at that point. NB- hamlet and edifice BUAs aren't restricted to the outer 6BW sections. Martin Indeed, it does state that. Choosing and placing features, first paragraph, last sentence reads “waterways must be placed first, then compulsory features, then others.” And page 7, line 2, “except that all of a city or fort must be within 6BW of each of 2 battlefield edges and can be on a hill”. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Post by martin on Dec 6, 2016 20:51:27 GMT
Took our gaming group a while to work out all the implications of terrain placement, especially as we were 2.2 players, and maybe not so quick to see how it "should" be done.
Note, a BIIIG edifice or hamlet can also struggle to fit in a quarter sometimes, despite the lack of restriciton to the outer 6BW, and especially if the the waterway is wide and it's a max sized area feature.
Martin
PS- Daz, don't miss out on the use of hamlet BUAs. They're really handy rough going pieces, if you have eg an Ax or Ps heavy dominant arable terrain foot army, and the enemy is nasty mounted. Better a big chunk of convenient rough going than a pair of plough patches with only a one in six chance of converting to RG.
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Post by wombatdazzler on Dec 6, 2016 22:51:31 GMT
Yep I do like Hamlets. I used to use plough a lot but have given up on them.
Cheers
D
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Post by lkmjbc on Dec 6, 2016 23:02:03 GMT
Yep I do like Hamlets. I used to use plough a lot but have given up on them. Cheers D Plough only works if you deploy all your Knights and Pike in it. Then it always works. Joe Collins
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Post by wombatdazzler on Dec 6, 2016 23:19:47 GMT
That is so true. Had a mate line up knights behind a plough and proceeded to roll a one. Good times.
:-)
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