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Post by goragrad on Dec 28, 2020 5:25:51 GMT
Goragrad,The field signs, such as the Cross of St. George, St. Denis, St. Andrew and the crossed staves made recognition of friend from foe easier, but its display had not yet become standard. I have found illustrations with signs displayed across the chest or to one side or on the shoulder or even on their breeches. But that is what makes the field signs so interesting - the lack of uniformity in position and evne in some cases color adds to the visual variety of the elements. Uniform colors and devices on Dark Age, Feudal, Medieval, and even Renaissance troops can be very nice to look at, but are ahistorical. Frankly even my Romans and Byzantines have variations in shade (at least) in tunic and harness colors. By the way, while on Luke Ueda-Sarson's website looking at his notes on the Notitia Dignitatum, I side-tracked to view his DBM pages from 2004 and noted his commentary on morphing his collection of four or five armies (late Book III and aarly Book IV) into a dozen by using removable banners. Nothing new under the sun... Looking forward to the AARs and some shots of the Landsknechts.
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Post by timurilank on Dec 28, 2020 7:38:59 GMT
I had first seen the exchange of banners demonstrated by Charlie Tarbox (not the English cricketer) in 1970. Though it may not be a new idea, it is nicely presented by James Roach.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 1, 2021 22:51:26 GMT
A good start on the new year; the bases of 8 elements of Landsknecht and artillery piece are covered, tomorrow the flocking and grass tufts. 28 flags were cut, trimmed and halves glued together. Tomorrow all white edges will be painted.
The flags are Flemish, German, French and two English. This week will be filled with testing the scenarios selected for the late medieval period.
This will be fun.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 5, 2021 10:24:37 GMT
Scenario- Battle of Formigny 1450
The scenario is posted to the blog along with a history of events leading to the battle, a description of the battlefield and opposing forces can be found there. Other scenarios will be posted in the coming months of conflicts in the last half of the 15th century. These all take place in Western Europe. dbagora.blogspot.com/2021/01/scenario-bataille-de-formigny-1450.html
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Post by goragrad on Jan 6, 2021 23:03:58 GMT
Nice looking scenario. May be able to pry the nephew away from the Xbox to have a go at it as soon as finish a few of the needed elements.
Will be interesting to see whether if ,as he will probably be the French, my impetuos nephew goes for the dismounted BD option and how that plays out.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 7, 2021 9:19:30 GMT
Look forward to reading your experience with it. The results of the test games will be posted tomorrow.
These may offer some inspiration.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 8, 2021 16:13:05 GMT
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Post by goragrad on Jan 8, 2021 22:11:33 GMT
Very interesting.
Were the French gendarmes mounted in all three battles?
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Post by timurilank on Jan 9, 2021 8:05:00 GMT
Very interesting. Were the French gendarmes mounted in all three battles? Yes, the French knights fought mounted in all three tests. John de Bourbon did restrain his knights to leave the artillery and franc-archers to their work. I have another historical scenario with them dismounted, but this will be posted at the end of the month. Next, the Low Countries.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 9, 2021 16:59:45 GMT
Uniform identification in the late medieval period.I am currently reading “War in the Middle Ages” by Philippe Contamine, translated by Michael Jones. Richly detailed on wide variety of topics ranging from the 9th to the late 15th century over a geographical area. Worth the investment if interested in the medieval era. Just finished the chapter about permanent armies and found “uniforms” of interest. Field signs, badges or emblems were easier to produce to identify a kingdom’s troops and most common were crosses in diverse colour. This applied to not only the troops. 1382 Charles VI expedition to Flanders, all (men and women) wore the white cross. 1411 Burgundian occupied Paris, all Parisian wore a blue hood with St. Andrew’s cross on one side and the fleur-de-lies on the other. 1419 Henry V required all Normans to wear the red cross of as a sign of submission. The names of cities also appeared on tunics or shirts for inhabitants of Dijon and Caen or the city arms for Metz and Lyon. The difference in rank could be discerned from the flags carried by their shape, size or extra symbols painted on, such as those of Burgundy. A few examples can be found here. duckduckgo.com/?q=les+drapeau+de+l%E2%80%99arm%C3%A9e+Bourguignons+de+Charles+de+T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire+&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
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Post by goragrad on Jan 9, 2021 22:16:26 GMT
Good link, and it looks like used copies of “War in the Middle Ages” are available thru Amazon at quite reasonable prices.
As to Fomigny, I doubt my nephew will let the archers and artillery do their work.
Also interesting in that the Book IV army list disparages the francs archers. In contrast to Heath in Armies of the Middle Ages wherein he notes their contribution as being crucial in at least one battle...
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Post by timurilank on Jan 9, 2021 23:21:27 GMT
There are other battles in which the franc-archers did perform well and these will appear later this month or next. However, first the Low Countries.
The scenario does require the French to use their guns or the Bretons will not appear.
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Post by paulisper on Jan 10, 2021 10:10:29 GMT
Good link, and it looks like used copies of “War in the Middle Ages” are available thru Amazon at quite reasonable prices. Ok, I’m convinced - got a second hand copy from Abebooks for less than a tenner, including P&P 😉 P
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Post by timurilank on Jan 10, 2021 22:13:01 GMT
This afternoon’s game was fun, a prequel to Formigny. Report with photos will be posted Tuesday.
Also, twenty-four Lithuanian cavalry were given an undercoat and painting them will begin later this week.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 10, 2021 22:20:29 GMT
Good link, and it looks like used copies of “War in the Middle Ages” are available thru Amazon at quite reasonable prices. Ok, I’m convinced - got a second hand copy from Abebooks for less than a tenner, including P&P 😉 P I paid a bit more for my copy, but still worth the money. Germany in the Later Middle Ages by Du Boulay should arrive on Thursday.
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