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Post by vodnik on Jul 18, 2024 13:41:03 GMT
skb777@: thank you for this information, which is new to me. This means that there was also heavy cavalry after Arthur in England, but also that DBA forgot about it. But not ADG, as up to 8 units of heavy cavalry can be deployed...
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Post by Simon on Jul 19, 2024 20:03:12 GMT
There are some good lists in Dan Mersey's Dux Bellorum rules. I also think they give a better game and flavour for the period than DBA!
Cheers
Simon
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Post by vodnik on Jul 19, 2024 21:35:43 GMT
...which lists are you thinking of???
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Post by Simon on Jul 20, 2024 7:49:49 GMT
Armies are considered early/middle and late in the period 367-793.
Late Roman Early - Comitanses or Limitanie
Romano/British Early/Middle
Welsh Warrior - all Includes North British and Cornish.
Welsh Shieldwall - Late
Saxon Warrior - all
Saxon Shieldwall - late
Irish - All
Pictish Warrior - all
Land raider - all
Sea raider all
Before Dux Bellorum Dan wrote Glutter of Ravens rules and source book available as PDF from Wargames vault.
Cheers Simon
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Post by Simon on Jul 20, 2024 7:52:03 GMT
Sorry - add Pictish Shieldwall - late to the above list
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Post by vodnik on Jul 20, 2024 21:52:40 GMT
...oh, i know that ruley; the best idea thre is: the bards tale. That was for me the first try for DBA-armies with less then 12 elements. Glutter of Ravens is from before 2000 with squares.But the subject of this post is Gododdin and not the tactics of old rules. Best could be to use ADG-rules: Post Roman British: 146. A bit larger but with the option for Gododdin...
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Post by vodnik on Jul 23, 2024 7:45:37 GMT
 ..post-Roman birites actually for triumph...  ...but the knights could be used, couldn't they? |
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Post by timurilank on Jul 23, 2024 9:30:42 GMT
A DBA post Roman British army, I would suggest II/81c and extend the end date of 580 AD to 616 AD. This would be followed by the Middle Anglo-Saxons of 617 to 1016 with a heavy reliance on spearmen. As skb777 suggested, the heavily armed mounted would form the general’s comitatus with an army being mostly spear armed infantry or pedyt. I found this an interesting analysis of the poem and period, “Exploring Y Gododdin: The Welsh Epic & The Battle of Catraeth (Catterick)” by Catherine Warr. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh18jDeCMk |
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