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Post by malory on May 27, 2024 17:47:05 GMT
Hi guys. I started a You Tube Channel dedicated to De Bellis Antiquitatis. The first episode is about Blades. I am mainly interested in breaking down the statistics behind different combat matchups to find how good certain elements really are in different situations.
Let's call it treating wargaming like a science.  Hope you enjoy. Feel free to drop any suggestions.
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Post by Simon on May 28, 2024 16:29:36 GMT
Nice idea. I look forward to seeing more!
Simon
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Post by mthrguth on Jun 1, 2024 15:24:49 GMT
Lesson number 1. The math of doubling an opponent. For most units, when combat factor plus die roll doubles the enemy combat factor plus die roll the enemy is dead. a. A one factor difference in starting combat factor makes a huge difference.
Examples: blade 5 vs. blade 5. Max result is a 6-1. Final combat scores are 11 vs. 6. You cannot double the opponent. He is immortal.
blade 5 vs. spear 4 with side support =5. Max result is a 6-1 for 11 vs. 6 you cannot double the opponent. He is immortal.
Blade 5 vs. spear 4 without side support. Max result is 6-1 and 5-1 for 11 or 10 vs. 5. You now double the opponent 2/36 or 1/18 times.
Blade 5 vs. spear 4 overlapped by another element for factor of 3. 6-2,6-1,5-2, 5-1,4-1,3-1 all double the opponent 6/36 or 3/18 times.
Observe that a 1 factor difference increased your chances of doubling an opponent by a factor of 3, not just a factor of 2......
Psiloi 2 vs. psiloi 2, 6-2, 6-1, 5-1, 4-1 or 4/36 kills
Psiloi 2 vs. overlaped psiloi at 1; 6-3, 6-2, 6-1, 5-2, 5-1, 4-2, 4-1, 3-1; 8/36 kills-
Here the 1 factor difference only doubled your odds of getting a kill. But kills are a much higher fraction compared to a fight of 5 vs. 4.
The ability to calculate ahead of time will make one a better general faster.
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Post by vodnik on Jun 2, 2024 7:30:24 GMT
...strategische Spiele sind nicht wirklich berechenbar.Kempffaktoren der Truppentypen werden mathematisch unterschieden. Neben den Kampffaktoren gibt es noch viele andere Faktoren die auf dem Schlachtfeld wirken; Wetter (Armada), Gelände (Wales), Jahreszeit (lake Peious), Befehlshaber (Karl der Grosse) aber do gibt es eine unberechenbare Zahl weitererer Faktoren. Auch das Würfelglück und die Regelkentnis...
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Post by Cromwell on Aug 8, 2024 7:49:36 GMT
Great idea👍
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Post by snowcat on Aug 9, 2024 0:10:05 GMT
As mthrguth already stated, it cannot be emphasised enough how much the lower the starting CF of an element dramatically increases the odds of it being recoiled or destroyed.
A starting CF of 2 is extremely brittle.
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Post by Haardrada on Aug 9, 2024 2:13:19 GMT
Lesson number 1. The math of doubling an opponent. For most units, when combat factor plus die roll doubles the enemy combat factor plus die roll the enemy is dead. a. A one factor difference in starting combat factor makes a huge difference. Examples: blade 5 vs. blade 5. Max result is a 6-1. Final combat scores are 11 vs. 6. You cannot double the opponent. He is immortal. blade 5 vs. spear 4 with side support =5. Max result is a 6-1 for 11 vs. 6 you cannot double the opponent. He is immortal. Blade 5 vs. spear 4 without side support. Max result is 6-1 and 5-1 for 11 or 10 vs. 5. You now double the opponent 2/36 or 1/18 times. Blade 5 vs. spear 4 overlapped by another element for factor of 3. 6-2,6-1,5-2, 5-1,4-1,3-1 all double the opponent 6/36 or 3/18 times. Observe that a 1 factor difference increased your chances of doubling an opponent by a factor of 3, not just a factor of 2...... Psiloi 2 vs. psiloi 2, 6-2, 6-1, 5-1, 4-1 or 4/36 kills Psiloi 2 vs. overlaped psiloi at 1; 6-3, 6-2, 6-1, 5-2, 5-1, 4-2, 4-1, 3-1; 8/36 kills- Here the 1 factor difference only doubled your odds of getting a kill. But kills are a much higher fraction compared to a fight of 5 vs. 4. The ability to calculate ahead of time will make one a better general faster. Am I missing something? In the Psiloi 2 vs overlapped Psiloi at 1 I thought that Psiloi (along with Scythed chariots) don't receive negative combat factors from overlapped? I may have it completely wrong but the third paragraph of close combat... An element not in close combat but in mutual right-to-right or left-to-left front corner with an enemy element except Psiloi or Scythed Chariots overlaps this;.... I understand this to mean that Psiloi and Scythed chariots do not receive a -1 combat factor if overlapped unless they are in frontal contact and only contacted in flank or rear? Have I got it wrong? |
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Post by menacussecundus on Aug 9, 2024 6:44:55 GMT
Lesson number 1. The math of doubling an opponent. For most units, when combat factor plus die roll doubles the enemy combat factor plus die roll the enemy is dead. a. A one factor difference in starting combat factor makes a huge difference. Examples: blade 5 vs. blade 5. Max result is a 6-1. Final combat scores are 11 vs. 6. You cannot double the opponent. He is immortal. blade 5 vs. spear 4 with side support =5. Max result is a 6-1 for 11 vs. 6 you cannot double the opponent. He is immortal. Blade 5 vs. spear 4 without side support. Max result is 6-1 and 5-1 for 11 or 10 vs. 5. You now double the opponent 2/36 or 1/18 times. Blade 5 vs. spear 4 overlapped by another element for factor of 3. 6-2,6-1,5-2, 5-1,4-1,3-1 all double the opponent 6/36 or 3/18 times. Observe that a 1 factor difference increased your chances of doubling an opponent by a factor of 3, not just a factor of 2...... Psiloi 2 vs. psiloi 2, 6-2, 6-1, 5-1, 4-1 or 4/36 kills Psiloi 2 vs. overlaped psiloi at 1; 6-3, 6-2, 6-1, 5-2, 5-1, 4-2, 4-1, 3-1; 8/36 kills- Here the 1 factor difference only doubled your odds of getting a kill. But kills are a much higher fraction compared to a fight of 5 vs. 4. The ability to calculate ahead of time will make one a better general faster. Am I missing something? In the Psiloi 2 vs overlapped Psiloi at 1 I thought that Psiloi (along with Scythed chariots) don't receive negative combat factors from overlapped? I may have it completely wrong but the third paragraph of close combat... An element not in close combat but in mutual right-to-right or left-to-left front corner with an enemy element except Psiloi or Scythed Chariots overlaps this;.... I understand this to mean that Psiloi and Scythed chariots do not receive a -1 combat factor if overlapped unless they are in frontal contact and only contacted in flank or rear? Have I got it wrong? Psiloi (and SCh) ignore front corner to front corner overlaps, but side edge to side edge ones still count. |
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Hope you enjoy. Feel free to drop any suggestions.
