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Post by jim1973 on Oct 6, 2023 2:06:51 GMT
Recently returned from Greece and was lucky enough to visit the Museum in Thebes and the ruins of Plataea. I found that looking over the probable battle site was quite an experience so I thought I would share it with you. I took this panoramic view of the ground from the city walls towards the north east. Though the land has obviously changed, it is still flat, arable land. Having driven from Macedonia to Epirus to Aetolia to Boeotia to Attica, I can tell you that this is a rarity in Greece! No wonder they fought over it constantly. You can understand why the Greek army sat in the foothills to avoid the Persian cavalry. The River Asopos lies to the front of the white shed in the centre of the picture. There is a second stream running parallel to the south but it is never mentioned in the accounts and may have formed over the last 2500 years. The Asopos was still quite low even after the horrendous storm that affected Central Greece just a few weeks earlier, though this will be due in part to irrigation demands. Possible site of the Persian camp? Who knows? Thebes is just to the west of the hills in the top left corner. I would imagine the ancient road out of Plataea that the Athenians retreated along ran in that general direction. South of Plataea is Mt Kithairion and the Asopos Range. These are steep and heavily wooded. Hope you found this interesting. Cheers Jim
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Post by lkmjbc on Oct 6, 2023 2:33:57 GMT
Very cool... Chaeronea is also very worth visiting. The Lion Monument is huge! The museum is small but interesting.
You can drive the roads across the battlefield. We didn't have time to visit the Tumulus... and we were worried it was on private land.
Joe Collins
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Post by jim1973 on Oct 6, 2023 2:44:41 GMT
Couldn't convince my family to indulge me and go to Chaeronea or Leuctra. Thankfully Plataea was on the road back to Athens from Thebes. Also, our Thermopylae plans were stopped by the floods. Next time!
Jim
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Post by Brian Ború on Oct 6, 2023 8:18:39 GMT
Some years ago they found Philipp II.'s tomb at Pella–undamaged.
Now you can visit it.
Very high on my agenda.
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Post by skb777 on Oct 6, 2023 10:09:34 GMT
It does make you wonder why a country that is dominated by mountainous hilly country decided to fight with perfectly formed troops that needed flat ground. Which is why they always fought at the same places, ok I'll meet you on the field at the back of the bike sheds after school.
One day I'll hire a car and do this trip, Waterloo is fantastic as is Nasby (both quite untouched) my brother and I did Agincourt and Crecy in a day, there and back on the bikes.
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Post by jim1973 on Oct 7, 2023 6:23:46 GMT
It does make you wonder why a country that is dominated by mountainous hilly country decided to fight with perfectly formed troops that needed flat ground. Which is why they always fought at the same places, ok I'll meet you on the field at the back of the bike sheds after school. One day I'll hire a car and do this trip, Waterloo is fantastic as is Nasby (both quite untouched) my brother and I did Agincourt and Crecy in a day, there and back on the bikes. My guess is that as they were mostly farmers, they fought for the relatively scarce farmland at their borders. Jim
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Post by carll on Oct 8, 2023 19:38:19 GMT
Nice one Jim1973. CarlL
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