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Post by vodnik on Sept 24, 2023 21:22:48 GMT
...the Japanese unification is another period of interrest for me...  ...that time were fought really great battles... |
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Post by vodnik on Oct 11, 2023 8:11:03 GMT
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Post by ilprincipe on Oct 20, 2023 22:05:20 GMT
Hi Vodnik,I was just reading my way through this thread and thinking: (a) it's very interesting but, and more importantly, (b) I should recommend that you try out Basic Impetus for Samurai, when I find that you've developed your own rules. Sigh. Late to the party again. Nevertheless I'd still make that recommendation. BI works very well for warfare which is "semi-barbaric". If you do try them out I'd be interested to hear your opinion. In the meantime I'll try your rules out and see what they're like. Regards, Chris |
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Post by Baldie on Oct 21, 2023 6:32:32 GMT
I like Impetus and have had some good scraps with it, it plays different enough to my other rules that I get the feel of a different game.
We went through a phase of different rules for the same armies as long as games played differently enough yo each other system.
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Post by vodnik on Oct 21, 2023 6:48:49 GMT
...i know Lorenco the italian author of BI. i met him in Zürich more than 20 years ago He was a superb DBA gamer. Bur after reading the rules of BI we all in Switzerland decided to play DBA or DBM. But if yoou like larger battles try Art de la Guerre...
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Post by vodnik on Oct 21, 2023 6:55:47 GMT
Baldie@: try Triumph. But you have to change the horse archers into cavalry with Yari...
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Post by ilprincipe on Oct 21, 2023 8:19:39 GMT
...i know Lorenco the italian author of BI. i met him in Zürich more than 20 years ago He was a superb DBA gamer. Bur after reading the rules of BI we all in Switzerland decided to play DBA or DBM. But if yoou like larger battles try Art de la Guerre... That's interesting, Vodnik. What was it that put you all off BI? I primarily play DBA as it gives a very good game and I'm yet to find any set that is as good all round. However I play BI for the reason that Baldie mentioned, it's a good game in it's own right and it's sufficiently different to be interesting. The main attractions of BI for me are that it allows for a degree of attrition to units before they're destroyed and that all units with ranged weapons can use them. Sometimes those two characteristics help to make particular styles of warfare come alive. Shieldwall armies are one example, bow armed horse armies another. On the other hand movement rates in BI are at snail's pace, which is an artifact of allowing very short ranged weapons, such as javelins, to have a ranged combat effect. And armies are actually numerically identical with DBA in terms of numbers of real soldiers depicted but are modelled using two to four times the number of figures, again because the ground scale is stretched (doubled) by comparison with DBA. So I wouldn't give up DBA for BI but I like to play it from time to time. On the other hand, I never play DBM or DBMM because neither seems to add anything over and above BBDBA except a level of additional sophistication to the mechanisms but that is offset for me by the need to field four times as many figures on a very big table just to play the same game that could be played using DBA with a quarter of the figures. ;-) Thanks for the steer towards Triumph though. I've been wondering whether to take a look at that ruleset so now I will. Regards, Chris |
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Post by vodnik on Oct 21, 2023 10:18:19 GMT
...since Impetus uses large bases and doesn't know any West Slavs, DBA22 was our favorite. Apparently ADG has adopted some features of BI. For me these are ideal rules for big battles...
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Post by Baldie on Oct 21, 2023 19:13:24 GMT
Impetus is one of the few games I have found LH and Bow can take out an enemy. Granted needs a bit of luck
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Post by vodnik on Oct 21, 2023 21:50:55 GMT
...that is the difference between DBX and ADG. It is a bit larger a 2 hour game with attrition and shooting for all so armet troops...
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