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Post by snowcat on Mar 9, 2023 8:03:17 GMT
Allies for the IV/65 Wallachian & Moldavian consist of either:
IV/66 Later Polish (3 elements)
or
both IV/43c Later Hungarian & IV/47 Golden Horde & Successors (2 elements from each)
In the original DBM list IV/65 Wallachian or Moldavian, only the Moldavians were permitted Polish allies, and could also choose from Later Hungarian, Ottoman, in addition to Golden Horde & Successors. The Wallachians had access to the following allies: Moldavian, Later Hungarian, and Ottoman.
So the Ottomans are now only enemies, and Moldavian allies are no longer allowed for Wallachians. And the Golden Horde & Successors are now linked with the Later Hungarians as 2 allied contingents (each requiring their own PIPs).
Any idea why the Golden Horde & Successors became linked with the Later Hungarian as 'same place, same time' allied contingents?
In DBA 2.0 the Wallachians & Moldavians could choose allies from any of: IV/43ac Later Hungarian or IV/47 Golden Horde & Successors or IV/55ab Ottoman or IV/65 Wallachian or Moldavian or IV/66 Later Polish.
In DBMM army list IV/65: Only Wallachians: Moldavian allies - List: Wallachian or Moldavian (Bk 4/65) Hungarian allies - List: Later Hungarian (Bk 4/43) Ottoman allies - List: Ottoman (Bk 4/53) Only Moldavians: Polish allies - List: Later Polish (Bk 4/66) Ottoman allies - List: Ottoman (Bk 4/53) Crim Tartar allies - List: Golden Horde and Successors (Bk 4/47)
So why did the Hungarian allies suddenly come with compulsory Golden Horde allies in DBA v3.0?
Cheers
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Post by snowcat on Mar 10, 2023 6:48:08 GMT
If there is nothing to support this change, I'm treating it as an error. So Wallachian & Moldavians can have Hungarian allies without also having to have Golden Horde & Successor allies.
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Post by timurilank on Mar 10, 2023 8:51:43 GMT
If there is nothing to support this change, I'm treating it as an error. So Wallachian & Moldavians can have Hungarian allies without also having to have Golden Horde & Successor allies. Good catch and should be an error. Allied contingents would be better listed for either Wallachian or Moldavia, this would make sense considering both were at odds with one another.
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Post by snowcat on Mar 10, 2023 8:58:33 GMT
Yup, agreed.
I could also go on about the zero option for the bulk of the infantry to be Ps *or 3Bw* too (as in DBMM), and a few other things with this army list (that IMO has been unfairly butchered for DBA), but that's another story.
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