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Post by jdesmond on Oct 5, 2016 20:06:57 GMT
Salutations, gentlefolk,
On the one hand, we have the Middle Imperial Romans - West, # II-64a, floreat 193-324 AD; whose enemies list, however, includes:
#II-47e - Marcomanni Army of Maroboduus, 9 BC-19 AD
#II-47f - Suevi, 19-49 AD
and their enemies lists include #II-64a
Doth anyone wish to offer a correction / explanation / slightly used time machine ?
Yours, John Desmond
(Tried Googling 'marcomanni suevi dba'. Found nothing relevant to this question, but did get ad "Online DBA Program - Earn Your DBA at South University" and site with list of random words headlined "Protorosaurus gun-room repaying treason Phosphorus - WordPress".)
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Post by gregorius on Oct 5, 2016 22:14:38 GMT
John, the only suggestion that I can offer is poor proofreading.
Cheers,
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Post by timurilank on Oct 5, 2016 22:35:09 GMT
Salutations, gentlefolk, On the one hand, we have the Middle Imperial Romans - West, # II-64a, floreat 193-324 AD; whose enemies list, however, includes: #II-47e - Marcomanni Army of Maroboduus, 9 BC-19 AD #II-47f - Suevi, 19-49 AD and their enemies lists include #II-64a Doth anyone wish to offer a correction / explanation / slightly used time machine ? Yours, John Desmond (Tried Googling 'marcomanni suevi dba'. Found nothing relevant to this question, but did get ad "Online DBA Program - Earn Your DBA at South University" and site with list of random words headlined "Protorosaurus gun-room repaying treason Phosphorus - WordPress".) Sub-lists "e" and "f" appearing as enemies of the MIR are clearly errors.
The Marcomanni of the later wars (168 - 180 AD) would use sub-lists "g" which is what I used for the Battle of Carnuntum scenario (Great Battles of History for DBA 3.0). They would have as allies the Quadi and Sarmatae.
I find the end date for the Suevi perplexing as there is no mention of campaigns against them during the reign of Claudius.
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Post by vodnik on Oct 6, 2016 7:14:00 GMT
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Post by timurilank on Oct 6, 2016 8:46:05 GMT
Agreed.
The "e" sub-list however is time specific and commanded by King Maroboduus.
As much as I would like blades with my warband, the Marcommani fighting Marcus Aurelius would use the generic "g" sub-list.
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Post by timurilank on Oct 8, 2016 14:05:45 GMT
#II-47f - Suevi, 19-49 AD and their enemies lists include #II-64a Doth anyone wish to offer a correction / explanation / slightly used time machine ? John,
While making preparations for another campaign scenario I believe I spotted the error regarding the Suevi.
II/47f - Suevi, 19 - should end at 249 AD.
... as they continue to another list.
II/72 c - Suevi, 250 - 584 AD.
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Post by vodnik on Oct 9, 2016 8:03:46 GMT
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Post by timurilank on Oct 9, 2016 10:33:57 GMT
I am currently researching Western Europe of the late 4th - early 5th century for new campaign scenarios.
You mention of the Suevi fighting in Pannonia and this underlines the difficulty tracing a route taken by any one German tribe during the great migration.
Many tribes chose to seek destinations far apart from one another; the Suevi in Pannonia, others settling in Gaul and yet other sub-tribes moving to Spain and later absorbed by the Visigoths.
The Alani and Vandals followed a similar pattern seeking different destinations.
Fascinating.
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