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Post by Haardrada on Nov 13, 2022 11:36:38 GMT
Out of interest I thought I'd ask these questions...when you have chosen a specific army and built it do you go on to complete further options in the list( or leave it at that.) or do you continue and build the other sub-lists (ie. a,b,c,etc.)?
If you do go further,which way do you choose to expand it...by morphing the existing army or buying the optional army?
For several years I've started armies only to go on to morph the existing army so that I can cover all the list options and run the further optional sub-lists if I choose too.This is especially true of two of my armies....
I started intially with a Ghaznavid (b) list army that morphed to include the option (a) elements so that I could play either.I then added Rajput allies,then built a Rujput army,which led to adding elements to convert that army into the Hindu sub-list,then elements to field a Tamil (b) list army...it's now at a point that I have complete separate armies for each sub-list and added a Muslim Indian army!
My Normans developed in a similar way...I bought the basic Essex Norman army,added further elements to cover all options (1066 and Southern Italy),then added Lombard allies,which became an army I could morph to cover all options for the Early Lombard and Italian Lombard armies.
Has anyone else walked a similar way or took a different path?
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Post by Baldie on Nov 13, 2022 14:34:23 GMT
I normally do a DBA basic force, try to get all options later and then grow into A Lart or HC army later.
Reality often is that after basic 12 elements are done the rest languish in the getting round to box for a significant period.
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Post by paulisper on Nov 13, 2022 15:28:31 GMT
When I started down the 15mm road, it was to prepare forces for the matched pairs at the Northern Cup. At that point, under 2.2, it was about getting as many armies ready in as short a time as feasible, so I tended just to go with the basic 12 elements.
Over the past six or seven years, I’ve switched to trying to paint all the options for each new army, as often as I can…
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Post by Ken Gordon on Nov 13, 2022 16:30:14 GMT
As a rule I tend to build the 12 elements that I’m most likely to play with the following considerations:
If available build the most interesting general’s unit (e.g litter) and a more practical option.
If a few spare figures build an extra ps since most armies have that as an option.
Avoid buying more figures so build the 12 elements that I can from my stash.
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Post by kaiphranos on Nov 13, 2022 17:28:48 GMT
Pick one sublist, build all the options, then add any additional units required for for other sublists of interest. So for example my Achaians and Trojans share 3Ch, 4Bd, and Sp, but I have 4Pk and 4Wb stands for when they are Achaians, and 3Bw and 3Bd stands for when they are Trojans.
That said, there have been a few instances where I have looked at a list and considered whether I would ever actually want a particular option (i.e. "gee, am I ever going to want to have 10 Ps on the table at once?")
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Post by paulisper on Nov 13, 2022 17:35:07 GMT
Pick one sublist, build all the options, then add any additional units required for for other sublists of interest. So for example my Achaians and Trojans share 3Ch, 4Bd, and Sp, but I have 4Pk and 4Wb stands for when they are Achaians, and 3Bw and 3Bd stands for when they are Trojans. That said, there have been a few instances where I have looked at a list and considered whether I would ever actually want a particular option (i.e. "gee, am I ever going to want to have 10 Ps on the table at once?") At the Cold Ash Clash, you just might 🤣🤣🤣 P |
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Post by jim1973 on Nov 13, 2022 22:12:58 GMT
I will do all/most options for the sub-list if the miniatures are available, but not necessarily the other sub-lists if they are outside of the period I'm thinking about and the miniature range I'm using wouldn't suit. For example, figures for the the first Welsh sub-list don't necessarily suit the later Welsh sub-lists. Other traps are long-lived lists such as the Pre-feudal Scots. I'd imagine that the earlier soldiers, which I'm interested in, would look different to the later period. I tend to think in terms of periods (e.g. Dark Age Britain, 5th Century Greece, etc). I try to randomise the army make up when playing so that those extra elements get their turn on the table.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by macbeth on Nov 13, 2022 23:06:32 GMT
I think I have OCDBA  I build up the whole army, all options, and I don't just add the extras for a sublist, it is an all or nothing tilt. So in the mix I have both b and c list Sassanids both with all options. Sometimes I draw the line where two or more options for one element are the same troop type eg - the Provincial Infantry (3Ax) or Tribal Infantry (3Ax) in the Southern Sung or the Libyan Javelinmen (Ps) or Bedouin Slingers (Ps) in the Old Kingdom Egyptian but otherwise I feel compelled to make the whole list. I build my armies up usually in campaign sets of 10-13 Armies cheers |
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Post by jim1973 on Nov 13, 2022 23:45:18 GMT
I think I have OCDBA  |
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Post by nangwaya on Nov 14, 2022 7:33:31 GMT
I have only ever purposefully purchased figures ahead of time to paint up all the options for an army, and that was for I/51 Later Sargonid Assyrian.
To be able to go on campaign with Ashurbanibal and have all options available, was too much to resist.
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Post by Vic on Nov 17, 2022 10:02:22 GMT
When I plan an army, I always buy the figures for all the options (plus an element of camp followers), and often also from other lists entries (either different sub-versions of the same list or other historically related lists). It helps, however, that I plan armies as more or less closed sets of mutual enemies, so I know which lists I'm going to build before planning for the minis of any of them.
So for example, my Vikings are actually a Danish army with a number of extra minis that can be fielded as the Viking, Leidang or early Scandinavian feudal versions.
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Post by larryr on Dec 8, 2022 15:33:00 GMT
I started DBA about two years ago with French and English HYW. Didn't stop and 12 elements and the project blossomed into about 60 additional bases for each army wanting a big battle feel. After dabbling in various rules to no satisfaction I'm back building DBA armies. Completed all vaiants of the Aetolians and currently working on Late Romans, Visgoths and Thebans!
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Post by ammianus on Dec 8, 2022 17:00:00 GMT
currently working on Late Romans, Visigoths Yay! |
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Post by draigcoch on Dec 8, 2022 19:41:44 GMT
I tend to start from an army I quite like the look of then check out the morphs. For example - Meroitic Kushites - the possible morphs (other Kushites & Libyan Egyptians) all require chariots. Once I had purchased and painted them I had a cluster of DBA armies in the post NKE period.
By this method my regular opponent and I can field around 60% of the DBA lists.
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Dec 9, 2022 14:31:36 GMT
I'm new so my feedback is based on few things, but here it is ^^
First, i focus on a couple of army, or a specific period (i'm right now in the punics war, and i have in project french iron age).
Then i choose who wiil be the iconic armies (Later Carthaginian II/32a and Polybian Roman for my punic project.
The "iconics" armies, will be be build with all options, eventually with more than one option per option (for exemple, roman allies could be spanish 3Ax or gallic 3Ax, so i could end with multiple 3Ax elements, for each one i could play)
Theyt i list the other armies involved in the period, or enemies/allies of the iconics armies. In the punic exemple, they are some (Gallic, Iberian, Celtiberian, Lusitanian, Sicilian, Syracuse, Numidian, Greeks,...)
I will follow by building playable armies for these, eventually sharing elements.
The final objective is to have all armie with all options, but i'll probably switch to another project before having buy/paint everything, so i'll have at least 2 full armies, and many more playable.
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