Ainkatsiss
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Nov 4, 2022 20:46:10 GMT
I've always wanted to build those 3 armies, but i can't find any figs, or even some pictures of what it should look like. I've seen some helmets, cuirasses and charriots on internet, but dessiminated among all the 3 armies.
Does one of you have more stuff about these ? Especially on the clothes, as it should be the basics where i should start imho.
And if one of you is playing one of these, please share some photos ^^
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Post by jim1973 on Nov 4, 2022 22:30:34 GMT
I've wanted to make this army too! The closest I've seen are these 25/28mm from Wargames Foundry: European Bronze AgeCheers Jim |
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Post by gregorius on Nov 4, 2022 23:39:27 GMT
Consider looking at the Gasgans range made by Khurusan Miniatures. Guys in kilts, with long hare and a variety of weapons, as well as chariots.
Cheers,
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Post by Piyan Glupak on Nov 5, 2022 7:02:01 GMT
My 15mm I/14b army (Europe, 1400 to 701 BC) is mainly Falcon figures, which are nice, but almost unobtainable now. The I/14a and I/14c armies are MY Miniatures from their Northern Barbarian range. MY Miniatures look a little rough, but paint up fine, and tend to have a lot of character. I made an enquiry to MY Miniatures about another army recently. The reply was very polite, but I got the impression that now would not be the best time for him at the moment, so it might be better to wait a couple of weeks before you contact him. www.spanglefish.com/mickyarrowminiatures/index.asp?pageid=188024The I/14a army has only one enemy listed, itself. It is nearly all Archers and Psiloi, but the general's element is 3Bd. (The general was Warband in version 2.) I tried getting another of the same army to face them, but I found fighting identical armies a unsatisfying, whereas similar but slightly different armies usually give a good game. The I/14c army is a lot like a II/11 Gallic army, but with an older look, and less enemies. I/14b army goes well against Villanovan Italians (available from both Donnington Miniatures and MY Miniatures), and Trojan War Achaians. Every major version of DBA (DBA versions 1, 2 and 3) revises the troop categories of most of the infantry, although the same figures can be used.
Edit: Sorry, can't do photos today, none ready, and I won't be able to take any because I will be busy. Might try in the next few days, if I can.
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Post by vodnik on Nov 5, 2022 7:59:09 GMT
...i use 15mm figs only: ...i use figures like this fior my Bronze agers...
...you can mix your figs for a specific period too...
...this are Picts. But you cold use it also as Bronze age barbarians...
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Post by Ken Gordon on Nov 5, 2022 8:28:04 GMT
You might find this book useful:
Bronze Age Warfare by Richard Osgood, Sarah Monks (Paperback, 2010)
This is quite a detailed book from a purely archaeological perspective so don’t expect an Osprey type experience.
Over 10 years old now but some useful line drawings.
One thing I got from it is that archery is important but it’s hard to see evidence for close order archers - 4 v 3 figures in dba terms.
Cheers
Ken
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Mr.E
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Post by Mr.E on Nov 6, 2022 20:18:22 GMT
I builded up the BellBeaker culture army 1/14a, with 15mm ice tribe archery copplestone miniature the range is very nice, available at north star figure.
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Ainkatsiss
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Nov 7, 2022 13:25:32 GMT
Thanks to all for the answers and advices. I wasn't expecting so much to be honest !
I really love the look of the ice tribe archers, but i'm i bit disappointed by their warriors, who are using more stone weapon than bronze one, as they should be. Maybe Mr.E could you send me some picture of what you have used as your 3Bd general ?
The caledonian archers are also a good choice, even if i find them more common. They have the (big) advantage to be easier to buy where i am, and they also have a very natural option for the general. Thanks vodnik.
The gasgans bodyguard archers are also very good, especially because of the helmets and the axes, as mentionned in the book. Sadly their warriors have the same problem ice tribe had, their weapon are mainly made with stone apparently. But as they also have the charriots, which make them a goo pretendent for the later 1/14b, even if they miss a cavalry element, probably doable with some conversions. Do you have an army with them gregorius ? I'd like to see some more photos if possible
Sadly Piyan Glupak, i find the photos on MY Miniature very small, so i can't see anything. If you manage to send some photos, i'll be happy to compare those figs with the others. And i could also probably contact Mike if you can't.
The first fig advice was the bronze age section of the Foundry's website. Sadly, i've just started with 15 mm, and will stay on it, especially for costs reasons. But as you were the first to answer jim1973, it helped me a lot to visualize what i was looking for ^^.
I've tried to find the book you adviced to me Ken Gordon, but i haven't been able to find it near where i am. But i've found an interesting article you should read, with a picture of what warriors, archers, and cavalry should look like ine the Bronze Age. I've readen many other things on internet, but it's hard to have a "precise" idea, because the time and space are really big.
I'm of course still opren to others contributions, but i now will have to do what i dislike the more: chose ;-)
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Post by gregorius on Nov 8, 2022 0:01:52 GMT
Thanks to all for the answers and advices. I wasn't expecting so much to be honest !
I really love the look of the ice tribe archers, but i'm i bit disappointed by their warriors, who are using more stone weapon than bronze one, as they should be. Maybe Mr.E could you send me some picture of what you have used as your 3Bd general ?
The caledonian archers are also a good choice, even if i find them more common. They have the (big) advantage to be easier to buy where i am, and they also have a very natural option for the general. Thanks vodnik .
The gasgans bodyguard archers are also very good, especially because of the helmets and the axes, as mentionned in the book. Sadly their warriors have the same problem ice tribe had, their weapon are mainly made with stone apparently. But as they also have the charriots, which make them a goo pretendent for the later 1/14b, even if they miss a cavalry element, probably doable with some conversions. Do you have an army with them gregorius ? I'd like to see some more photos if possible
Sadly Piyan Glupak , i find the photos on MY Miniature very small, so i can't see anything. If you manage to send some photos, i'll be happy to compare those figs with the others. And i could also probably contact Mike if you can't.
The first fig advice was the bronze age section of the Foundry's website. Sadly, i've just started with 15 mm, and will stay on it, especially for costs reasons. But as you were the first to answer jim1973 , it helped me a lot to visualize what i was looking for ^^.
I've tried to find the book you adviced to me Ken Gordon , but i haven't been able to find it near where i am. But i've found an interesting article you should read, with a picture of what warriors, archers, and cavalry should look like ine the Bronze Age. I've readen many other things on internet, but it's hard to have a "precise" idea, because the time and space are really big.
I'm of course still opren to others contributions, but i now will have to do what i dislike the more: chose ;-)
Sorry, I don't have an army using the Khurusan Gasgans, nor an army covered by I/14a,b,c. Cheers, |
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Post by vodnik on Nov 8, 2022 7:33:08 GMT
...a next try to show my Bronze agers: ...oh, now it wors: |
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Ainkatsiss
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Post by Ainkatsiss on Nov 8, 2022 7:47:06 GMT
...a next try to show my Bronze agers: ...oh, now it wors: Sadly it's not working here... you can see your pictures ? |
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Post by stevie on Nov 8, 2022 8:47:13 GMT
Vodnik, to display pictures first upload them to another site. (I use imgbb.com/ , as a ‘direct link’, which is free)And the format to show them here on Fanaticus is:- img style="max-width:70%;" src="---the address of your picture here---" all placed within square brackets. Make a quote of this post to see how I displayed the following picture:- 
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Mr.E
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Post by Mr.E on Nov 8, 2022 10:54:50 GMT
Bonjour ainkatsiss : here you can have a look to the army 1/14a to transform a polished stone weapon into copper or even Bronze weapon then just paint it copper or bronze, figure are supplied unpainted though. By the way it is not 100% sure thoses barbarian was all geared with Bronze weapon, based on tollensee archeological relic, club wood was used, flint stone arrow....etc www.facebook.com/groups/382414395294162/permalink/1828799020655685/  |
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Post by vodnik on Nov 8, 2022 10:55:11 GMT
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Post by vodnik on Nov 8, 2022 17:47:04 GMT
Vodnik, to display pictures first upload them to another site. (I use imgbb.com/ , as a ‘direct link’, which is free)And the format to show them here on Fanaticus is:- img style="max-width:70%;" src="---the address of your picture here---" all placed within square brackets. Make a quote of this post to see how I displayed the following picture:- |
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