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Post by elliesdad on May 15, 2024 20:00:43 GMT
New trivia question! There are two troop types that appear in both the first army list (I/1a Early Sumerian) and the last (IV/85b Burgundian Ordonnance 1478-1506 AD) - what are they? Gonna guess Ps and Pk⊠P Yeah - that sounds about right to me đ
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Post by kaiphranos on May 15, 2024 23:11:04 GMT
Good guess, but only half correct!
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Post by Brian BorĂș on May 16, 2024 9:42:08 GMT
Good guess, but only half correct! Ps only. But are slingers, bows and javelins really the same as handgunners?
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Post by Les1964 on May 16, 2024 10:16:49 GMT
New trivia question! There are two troop types that appear in both the first army list (I/1a Early Sumerian) and the last (IV/85b Burgundian Ordonnance 1478-1506 AD) - what are they? 4Bw ( even though IV/85b are 4Lb) and Ps .
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Post by kaiphranos on May 16, 2024 13:32:00 GMT
New trivia question! There are two troop types that appear in both the first army list (I/1a Early Sumerian) and the last (IV/85b Burgundian Ordonnance 1478-1506 AD) - what are they? 4Bw ( even though IV/85b are 4Lb) and Ps . Correct! The 4Pk don't appear until I/1b.
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Post by Brian BorĂș on Sept 7, 2024 16:05:44 GMT
BTW, is there an army that consists mainly of Sp and Bd, let's say at least 5ĂSp and 5ĂBd?
If not, which army/armies come/s close to that?
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Post by menacussecundus on Sept 7, 2024 16:47:19 GMT
BTW, is there an army that consists mainly of Sp and Bd, let's say at least 5ĂSp and 5ĂBd? If not, which army/armies come/s close to that? Middle Anglo-Saxon 701-1016 (III/24b) can have 3x4Bd and 8xSp. Is that close enough?
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Post by Les1964 on Sept 7, 2024 18:34:26 GMT
BTW, is there an army that consists mainly of Sp and Bd, let's say at least 5ĂSp and 5ĂBd? If not, which army/armies come/s close to that? I/57b Etruscan League , can have 4 x 4Bd and 4 x Sp . Edit: This can get the 5ĂSp and 5Ă4Bd with allies .
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Post by timurilank on Sept 7, 2024 18:45:52 GMT
BTW, is there an army that consists mainly of Sp and Bd, let's say at least 5ĂSp and 5ĂBd? If not, which army/armies come/s close to that? Middle Anglo-Saxon 701-1016 (III/24b) can have 3x4Bd and 8xSp. Is that close enough? Add III/40b Viking as allies.
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Post by Haardrada on Sept 7, 2024 19:14:09 GMT
Do I/26b Trojan come close...4xLch//4Bd and 4ĂSp with 1xSp or 3Bd?
Or the I/26a Achians with 4xLch//4Bd+6xSp?đ
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Post by Brian BorĂș on Sept 7, 2024 19:40:01 GMT
Do I/26b Trojan come close...4xLch//4Bd and 4ĂSp with 1xSp or 3Bd? Or the I/26a Achians with 4xLch//4Bd+6xSp?đ Great! You even found two original armies only missing one unit either of Bd or Sp to match the 5 Sp + 5 Bd.
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Post by Brian BorĂș on Sept 7, 2024 20:10:09 GMT
Middle Anglo-Saxon 701-1016 (III/24b) can have 3x4Bd and 8xSp. Is that close enough? Add III/40b Viking as allies. Yep, an elegant solution which offers even 6xBd (3x4 Bd as the viking ally) plus 6xSp. The reason why I came to ask is: As Sp get +1 side support when side by side with solid Bd, I wondered if there really was an army composed only of those two unit types. An original army like the Achaians thus may deploy so, that it allows 5 units of Sp to benefit from side support, which gives 9 units in a row a CF of + 5 against Ft. I wonder how they behave in battleâa tough nut to crack? The viking contingent on the other hand theoretically gives the Anglo-Saxons the full possibility of mixing the units to achieve a battle line like this: Sp Bd Sp Bd Sp Bd Sp Bd Bd Sp Bd Sp But this mixed formation is a bit hard to achieve, isn't it? And it would cost some PIPs...
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Post by martin on Sept 7, 2024 21:30:24 GMT
Add III/40b Viking as allies. Yep, an elegant solution which offers even 6xBd (3x4 Bd as the viking ally) plus 6xSp. The reason why I came to ask is: As Sp get +1 side support when side by side with solid Bd, I wondered if there really was an army composed only of those two unit types. An original army like the Achaians thus may deploy so, that it allows 5 units of Sp to benefit from side support, which gives 9 units in a row a CF of + 5 against Ft. I wonder how they behave in battleâa tough nut to crack? The viking contingent on the other hand theoretically gives the Anglo-Saxons the full possibility of mixing the units to achieve a battle line like this: Sp Bd Sp Bd Sp Bd Sp Bd Bd Sp Bd Sp But this mixed formation is a bit hard to achieve, isn't it? And it would cost some PIPs... Fun comes when the Bd win their fights and pursue, taking away the Sp flank supports.
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Post by Haardrada on Sept 7, 2024 21:59:56 GMT
The solution to that one is to have the Sp elements deploy in pairs(or two groups of 3xSp) interspersed with the Bd elements so as to retain the side support should the Bd pursue.đ
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Post by Les1964 on Sept 7, 2024 22:03:04 GMT
Fun comes when the Bd win their fights and pursue, taking away the Sp flank supports. But they will then give a -1 for the overlap . ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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