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Post by goldenhord on Jan 11, 2022 11:32:36 GMT
HI Guys,
I have a question
Let say we are in good going, a LH has 3 pips.
It moves out the theat zone of a first element with recoiling full move with the 1st pip.
The second pip LH moves out any bow and threat ennemy threat zone.
The Third mouvement LH goes to another element.
Does LH has to remain out the new threat zone or in at the limit and prevents
the enemy to do something else (except std counter moves) ?
thx.
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 11, 2022 12:47:37 GMT
A second or subsequent move by LH can only be made if this does not start or go within 1 Base Width of the enemy. So, no, it can't get close enough to put another enemy element in its TZ - and it can't enter an enemy TZ either.
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Post by chrishumphreys on Jan 11, 2022 20:58:32 GMT
Hi, I agree with Menacusecundus. Because it starts in a threat zone (i.e. within 1 base width) it cannot make a second or subsequent move (page 9).
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 11, 2022 21:55:34 GMT
Hi, I agree with Menacusecundus. Because it starts in a threat zone (i.e. within 1 base width) it cannot make a second or subsequent move (page 9). That depends whether the word "this"* is referring to the LH or to the second or subsequent move. I think it's the latter, which would mean the LH can pull out of the TZ and then make a second move (provided it isn't within a Base Width of another enemy element and doesn't go within a BW of any enemy elements during the move). But I can see it's open to a different reading. * Second line of the section headed SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT TACTICAL MOVES on page 9. |
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Post by goldenhord on Jan 17, 2022 9:34:11 GMT
Let summarize
If a LH is already in a TH zone it could make several moves (3 pips) outside TH and Bow zones and could not enter again in a another TH zone
But the LH could create a TH zone with the last zone.
Right ?
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 17, 2022 10:09:40 GMT
Let summarize If a LH is already in a TH zone it could make several moves (3 pips) outside TH and Bow zones and could not enter again in a another TH zone But the LH could create a TH zone with the last zone. Right ? Not quite. It can't get close enough to create a Threat Zone on its final move because it can't go within a BW of any enemy. |
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Post by ysaline on Jan 17, 2022 11:24:34 GMT
ok applied the last point, just for info it is written where page and § ? if applied the first question does not apply.
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 17, 2022 12:09:43 GMT
ok applied the last point, just for info it is written where page and § ? if applied the first question does not apply. First sentence of the section headed SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT MOVES DURING THE SAME BOUND. Page 9 in the hardback edition. As I mentioned earlier, there is room for debate as to whether the word "this" in that sentence means the LH or the second/subsequent move. I think it is the latter; so, first move directly backwards out of the TZ, second move wherever it likes as long as it doesn't start or go within a BW of any enemy. |
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Post by chrishumphreys on Jan 18, 2022 8:11:36 GMT
Hi, I agree with Menacusecundus. Because it starts in a threat zone (i.e. within 1 base width) it cannot make a second or subsequent move (page 9). That depends whether the word "this"* is referring to the LH or to the second or subsequent move. I think it's the latter, which would mean the LH can pull out of the TZ and then make a second move (provided it isn't within a Base Width of another enemy element and doesn't go within a BW of any enemy elements during the move). But I can see it's open to a different reading. * Second line of the section headed SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT TACTICAL MOVES on page 9. Quite right, thank you, I stand corrected. I shall henceforth try to have a convenient forest for my psiloi to move into after they make their initial move back (because they usually recoil and foot and Cav don't follow up). |
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Post by goldenhord on Jan 20, 2022 11:05:25 GMT
ok thanks as yoiu cannot enter in a BW ennemy the threat zone question is unaccurate?
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Post by menacussecundus on Jan 20, 2022 11:09:02 GMT
ok thanks as yoiu cannot enter in a BW ennemy the threat zone question is unaccurate? Yes. The LH cannot get close enough to the enemy to put the enemy in its (the LH's) Threat Zone. |
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