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Post by sheffmark on Dec 18, 2021 15:58:12 GMT
Quick question
Can you move a group and form a column on only one of the moving elements?
E.G. In a line there is a Kn and 2 LH. Can the Kn and 1st LH move forward and the 2nd LH move behind the first one as a group move, or would this have to be done separately?
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Post by Roland on Dec 18, 2021 16:26:22 GMT
Figure 4. page 17 of Purple has the diagram you're looking for. One can go _into_ column as a group move ( provided no element exceeds its movement allowance). Forming a line from column is apparently quite a different matter and soaks up pips.
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Post by martin on Dec 18, 2021 17:54:32 GMT
Quick question Can you move a group and form a column on only one of the moving elements? E.G. In a line there is a Kn and 2 LH. Can the Kn and 1st LH move forward and the 2nd LH move behind the first one as a group move, or would this have to be done separately? I think not….the ‘into column’ rule only seems to apply to a column behind one element. [In previous iterations there was a process for contracting group frontage to avoid friends and/or bad going, but that seems to have been discontinued under v3]… |
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Post by Roland on Dec 18, 2021 21:35:20 GMT
Quick question Can you move a group and form a column on only one of the moving elements? E.G. In a line there is a Kn and 2 LH. Can the Kn and 1st LH move forward and the 2nd LH move behind the first one as a group move, or would this have to be done separately? I think not….the ‘into column’ rule only seems to apply to a column behind one element. [In previous iterations there was a process for contracting group frontage to avoid friends and/or bad going, but that seems to have been discontinued under v3]… I agree. OP's hypothetical really isn't really a column formation therefore... |
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Post by stevie on Dec 18, 2021 23:30:08 GMT
I think Martin has hit the nail on the head.
The 3rd paragraph in the page 8 Tactical Moves section of the current rules says:-
“Each element of a group must move parallel to or follow the first to move,
move the same distance, or wheel forward through the same angles with
the entire front edge pivoting forward around a front corner.”
If part of a group moves straight forwards, but another part is slipping sideways and
not moving parallel to or following the first element to move, then the group has
effectively split and requires an extra PIP to move the part that moves differently…
…just as if part were to detach itself and move off in an entirely different direction
altogether or change its formation.
A column is a group one element wide...
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Post by sheffmark on Dec 20, 2021 15:00:07 GMT
Thanks for the replies.
I agree.
Maybe the key bit is where it says on page 8 "Elements that do not join the tail of the column that bound are no longer part of the same group". Although this could maybe suggest you could move along with the column but then weren't part of the group next bound(?) However on page 17 it is even clearer as it says "Elements which are unable to join the column with a single element move are excluded from the group move.
Sorted.
Thanks
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