Post by stevie on Apr 18, 2021 17:53:30 GMT
III/62ab Sung Chinese...DBMM allows them to have WWg, but DBA 3.0 does not.
II/12 Alexandrians...DBMM allows some Pk to be replaced by Ax, but DBA 3.0 does not.
II/7 Later Achaemenid Persians...DBMM allows some 3Bows, but DBA 3.0 does not.
(And some historical accounts say that Alexander faced an arrow storm at Issus in 333 BC)
Plus there are many, many, other examples.
Now I know that DBA 3.0 is a dumbed-down version of DBMM (or DBMM is an
over-complicated version of DBA...depending on your own personal point of view),
but if these troops were used historically, as indicated by the DBMM Army Lists,
and if DBMM is allowed to have this extra historical accuracy, then why are they
being denied to us DBA players?
Are we considered not to be clever enough?
Yes, DBA is simplified...but we are all grown-ups, and should be allowed to choose
the amount of complexity we feel comfortable with. After all, they would just be
options in the DBA Army Lists, so players can choose not to use them if they wish.
I have found that the following scaling-down method works quite well,
if you first group all the troop types together to find their maximums.
First, work out the maximum number of DBMM Artillery, the maximum number of
DBMM Psiloi, the maximum number of DBMM Auxiliaries, and so on, then:-
a) If DBMM says “0-1”, then you can’t have that element.
(as there are too few to be represented in a 12 element army)
b) Divide all other DBMM amounts by 8, rounding down.
(but any amount divided to be less than 1 is counted as 1)
...and of course the same must be done with the DBMM minimum amounts as well,
remembering that a DBA army can only have 12 elements in total.
This roughly appears to be the method used to create the DBA lists,
as you can see by looking at the DBMM II/12 Alexandrian Army.
Another good example is the DBMM II/45 Slave Revolts that allows 96 Hordes,
which divided by 8 becomes 12 x Hd in DBA...ah, but they must also have at least
5 other element types in addition (either Ps/Ax/Cv/4Bd, plus the general’s element),
so the maximum in DBA would be about 7 x Hd.
II/12 Alexandrians...DBMM allows some Pk to be replaced by Ax, but DBA 3.0 does not.
II/7 Later Achaemenid Persians...DBMM allows some 3Bows, but DBA 3.0 does not.
(And some historical accounts say that Alexander faced an arrow storm at Issus in 333 BC)
Plus there are many, many, other examples.
Now I know that DBA 3.0 is a dumbed-down version of DBMM (or DBMM is an
over-complicated version of DBA...depending on your own personal point of view),
but if these troops were used historically, as indicated by the DBMM Army Lists,
and if DBMM is allowed to have this extra historical accuracy, then why are they
being denied to us DBA players?
Are we considered not to be clever enough?
Yes, DBA is simplified...but we are all grown-ups, and should be allowed to choose
the amount of complexity we feel comfortable with. After all, they would just be
options in the DBA Army Lists, so players can choose not to use them if they wish.
I have found that the following scaling-down method works quite well,
if you first group all the troop types together to find their maximums.
First, work out the maximum number of DBMM Artillery, the maximum number of
DBMM Psiloi, the maximum number of DBMM Auxiliaries, and so on, then:-
a) If DBMM says “0-1”, then you can’t have that element.
(as there are too few to be represented in a 12 element army)
b) Divide all other DBMM amounts by 8, rounding down.
(but any amount divided to be less than 1 is counted as 1)
...and of course the same must be done with the DBMM minimum amounts as well,
remembering that a DBA army can only have 12 elements in total.
This roughly appears to be the method used to create the DBA lists,
as you can see by looking at the DBMM II/12 Alexandrian Army.
Another good example is the DBMM II/45 Slave Revolts that allows 96 Hordes,
which divided by 8 becomes 12 x Hd in DBA...ah, but they must also have at least
5 other element types in addition (either Ps/Ax/Cv/4Bd, plus the general’s element),
so the maximum in DBA would be about 7 x Hd.
