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Post by jim1973 on Jan 21, 2021 0:44:56 GMT
Just looking at creating some historical scenarios in Classical Greece and there are a few battles where the flank was anchored by a river (e.g. Ephesos, Chaeronea). Does anybody know why rivers have to be 4BW away from the edges they don't flow towards? It places them too centrally to make these scenarios work. I think 1 or 2 BW would have allowed for historical terrain without a scenario special rule. May also put more rivers on the table. A flank river and a parallel road allows non-littoral armies the ability to narrow the field somewhat.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by paulhannah on Jan 21, 2021 1:21:14 GMT
If you're designing historical scenarios, you have carte-blanche to set out the terrain as you see fit, unfettered by the game's terrain rules. Place the river wherever you want.
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Post by jim1973 on Jan 21, 2021 3:21:57 GMT
Sure. But it does seem strange to need a special rule for something that wasn't that uncommon historically. I was wondering if there was any particular reason for this placement rule.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by paulhannah on Jan 21, 2021 3:36:46 GMT
I wasn't in on the game's design, so I can only guess here.
Allowing rivers very near an edge could have resulted in players' having to deploy either in or immediately behind a river, which could result in lousy games. Situations, as you describe, where an army has its flank anchored on a river is easily simulated in DBA whenever a Waterway ends up on a side-edge and one or both armies use it anchor their respective flanks.
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Post by timurilank on Jan 21, 2021 7:16:13 GMT
Just looking at creating some historical scenarios in Classical Greece and there are a few battles where the flank was anchored by a river (e.g. Ephesos, Chaeronea). Does anybody know why rivers have to be 4BW away from the edges they don't flow towards? It places them too centrally to make these scenarios work. I think 1 or 2 BW would have allowed for historical terrain without a scenario special rule. May also put more rivers on the table. A flank river and a parallel road allows non-littoral armies the ability to narrow the field somewhat. Cheers Jim The dimension should read 1 – 4BW with no more than half reaching 3BW. Which should give you space for your scenario. If you have not yet constructed your waterways, you may find this helpful. 18thcenturysojourn.blogspot.com/2017/05/waterways.html |
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Post by jim1973 on Jan 21, 2021 8:50:18 GMT
Thanks timurilank. I can use my waterways but I'd rather a DBA river to give the option of an outflanking manoeuvre.
I'll just put the river 2BW from the edge and take it from there.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by timurilank on Jan 21, 2021 10:11:19 GMT
Thanks timurilank. I can use my waterways but I'd rather a DBA river to give the option of an outflanking manoeuvre. I'll just put the river 2BW from the edge and take it from there. Cheers Jim Jim, I mis-interpreted your query about river as waterway. Too many translations involving rivers, tributaries, streams and brook. As Paul mentioned, terrain features in historical scenarios should not have to conform with DBA parameters. Good luck with your scenario. |
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Post by arnopov on Jan 21, 2021 10:48:59 GMT
11 BW long L-shaped rivers can get as close as one wants to the side edge. "mini WW" for the discerning tropical players.
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