mako
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Post by mako on Oct 23, 2020 17:22:13 GMT
I know that generally, the Khurasan range of minis are taller than many of the other 15mm ranges, e.g. being more like 18mm in size, so I'd like to know how their Italian Wars minis compare to Venexia, Minifigs, and others available for the period from 1490 - 1530?
Are any of you suing these together for more pose and equipment variety?
Any other minis from various manufacturers with a high level of sculpting details that will go with them as well?
I generally prefer my troops to not look like a clone army, so am interested in mixing figures from different companies together in order to make the units look a bit more realistic and interesting.
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Post by larryr on Oct 23, 2020 18:17:21 GMT
not sure about their italian wars but I use Essex ad Old Glory with their LIR and Goth/Germans. THat said I have 4 LIR archers that are significantly larger than the legionary and auxiliary I got from them. I think it was a different sculptor too
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Post by snowcat on Oct 24, 2020 0:23:56 GMT
I thought Khurasan were 15-16mm to the eyes in general, but that one range can differ from another quite markedly depending on the sculptor. e.g. the Tibetans are small and very finely proportioned compared with the Timurids.
I asked Jon of Khurasan what size the round bases he uses in his photos are. He didn't know. Said the painters just mount the figures on UK coins. By my calculations, that makes the coins either 2p or 50p.
2p = 25.9mm diameter, and 50p = 27.3mm.
If they're on 2p coins, then the figures *appear* a little smaller than Essex. If on 50p, then they're similar in size but generally finer in proportions (depending on the sculptor). Essex horses are especially chunky, and their riders are often larger than their infantry equivalents.
It really would be helpful to have a scale included in the Khurasan photos (and those of other manufacturers), or have the figures mounted on DBx bases, etc., especially as different sculptors can sculpt quite differently sized 15mm figures.
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mako
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Post by mako on Oct 24, 2020 3:28:33 GMT
I've read on the Khurasan website that supposedly these are larger, and he mentions 18mm, so I suspect that is measured from the bottom of the foot to the top of the head, and not to the eyes.
That would make sense, given your measurements.
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Post by snowcat on Oct 24, 2020 3:39:08 GMT
Where does it say that? I can't find it...
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mako
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Post by mako on Oct 24, 2020 5:09:36 GMT
I thought I'd read that on there, but can't seem to find it now.
I do know in the past, a lot of their ranges are slightly taller than 15mm, bordering on 18mm, so they can supposedly make them look more proportional and add more detailing to the figures. I haven't seen these in person, so can't say personally for sure.
I have run across comments like this though, from various on-line forums: "Great range I have a pile of the Spanish and am ordering a pile of Landsknechts. Some of the nicest 15-18mm figures on the market".
Given the 18mm reference, and the above, I have been inclined to believe these are a bit taller than your average Essex or Mirliton medieval soldier/cav, and are perhaps a better matchup with taller figs like those from Minifigs, Venexia, etc., but am trying to confirm that.
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Post by snowcat on Oct 24, 2020 6:28:44 GMT
Hmm, references to 18mm are usually to the eyes, so 19-20mm to top of head.
Seriously, how hard is it to just put a useful scale reference in the store photos?!
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Post by larryr on Oct 25, 2020 0:54:19 GMT
No way are their LIR 18mm
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Post by Les1964 on Oct 25, 2020 20:37:18 GMT
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Post by snowcat on Oct 25, 2020 23:02:44 GMT
Yes. But they can differ in style/proportions depending on the sculptor - which is why a scale base or ruler in the photos (or even a statement re the choice of coins used for the bases) would be useful in determining the size/proportions of each range of figures compared with other manufacturers. However, overall, Khurasan figures tend to be true 15's, 15mm to the eye, with finer proportions than Essex and Old Glory.
Example of more typical Khurasan proportions here on DBA bases:
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