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Post by vodnik on Oct 6, 2020 8:00:48 GMT
In dba2 there is an army of Bohemia (3/1b) ending in AD 1003. There are no Bohemians in dba 3 but western Slavs. Nota bene; Slavs in Germany were called: Wends & that people in the Baltic counties
But 955 bohemian soldiers did fight with Otto against the Magyars. Later in 1278 did fight Rudolf of Habsburg against Ottokar 2 of Bohemia to become king of Germany.
In 1458 George of Poděbrady was elected to be king in Bohemia to his death in 1471.
For a short while there were 2 Rulers with the title; king of Bohemia: the polish Vladislav II & Matthias Corvinus, king of Hungary. |
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Oct 9, 2020 20:52:01 GMT
Look what I found in the description in the DBA 3.0 list for the Hussites...
IV/80 HUSSITE 1419 AD- 1434 AD & 1464 AD -1471 AD
The Hussites were named after Jan Hus, a Bohemian religious reformer judicially murdered while
under safe conduct in 1415. This having failed to suppress local anti-catholic religious
aspiration, a revolt broke out 1419-1424 under Jan Zizka which was to win many victories against
the Catholic League's Royalist and Hungarian armies. Having defeated the initial Catholic response,
they then split into mutually hostile Utraquist, Taborite and smaller factions, though these
still occasionally combined. Their strength lay in massed open-topped horse-drawn war wagons crewed
by crossbowmen and some handgunners. Other wagons mounted a houfnice, which was a short light
cannon, but with a large bore suitable for firing multiple small shot. A new series of crusades
1464-1471 were led by King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary against the "Hussite King" Georg Podiebrad
of Bohemia. Reference: Armies of the Middle Ages Vol 2 I. Heath.
IV/80 Hussite Army: 1 x General (3Kn or 4Bd or WWg), 1 x mounted crossbowmen (LH), 4 x halberdiers
and flail-men (4Bd), 5 x war wagons crewed by crossbowmen and handgunners (WWg), 1 x houfnice on
specialist wagon (Art) or Polish knights (3Kn).
Terrain Type: Arable. Aggression: 3. Enemies: IV/13b, IV/13c, IV/43c, IV/66, IV/80.
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Post by vodnik on Oct 10, 2020 10:19:47 GMT
...thank you Tony... my ideas for that battles are:
955: second battle on the Lechfeld. That time the Bohemian state includet the present day Czech republik, Silesia & the Krakow counties.
Bohemian army that time: 1x3cv(Gen), 6x4sp, 2x3bw & Magyar renegade: 1x3cv, 2x2lh
3/30b: Magyars all mounted in arable:
1278: battle on the Marchfeld. At that time Bohemia was a member of the German empire and a kingdom. So there were 2 rivals for the crown of the holy Roman empire:
Ottokar II: 1x3kn(Gen), 3x3Ri(polish stile knights), 1x4cb, 1x4bd, 4x4sp, 2x2ps
Rudolf I: 1x3kn(Gen), 1x3kn, 2x6kn, 1x4cb, 1x4bd, 4x4sp, 2x2ps
1468 Trebitsch in Moravia: George of Podebrady Bohemian Army: 1458-71; like a Polish army but with much more infantry than cavalry & just a few war wagons:
1x3kn(Gen), 3x3kn, 2x4bd, 1x2lh, 1x4cb, 1x4be, 1x3bd, 2xwwg
Late Hungarians; 4/43: 1x3kn(Gen), 2x3kn, 3x2lh, 1x4bd, 2x4sp, 1x4cb, 2xwwg
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Post by vodnik on Oct 12, 2020 10:20:43 GMT
...there is another important battle for the future of the Bohemians; 833 Batle of Nitra; Mojmirs(alanian origin?) Moravians against Slovarians under Pribina; Mojmir: 3x3cv(Gen), 7x4ax, 2x2ps - Pripibina: 1x3cv(Gen), 9x3ax, 2x2ps - both Slav armies are western so 3ax could be 4sp - 4ax is taken from the Croatian list...
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Post by vodnik on Oct 14, 2020 18:14:31 GMT
...in the first version of DBA the Slav were listed as: 89 Slav 1x 3cv or 3ax, 9x 3ax, 3x 2ps. In version 2 Slavs were istet as 3/1a) Wends 560-1218, b) Bohemians 830-1003, c) Others 476-985. Bohemians only were slow spear figthers. Other Slav armies were fast javelin or axe fighters.In the first version of DBA the Slav were listed as: 89. Slav 1x 3cv or 3ax, 9x 3ax, 3x 2ps. In version 2 Slavs were istet as 3/1a) Wends 560-1218, b) Bohemians 830-1003, c) Others 476-985. Bohemians only were slow spear figthers. Other Slav armies were fast javelin or axe fighters. That time i could use a Bohemian army before 830 as an auxilia army. To compare in the first version there were no Croats, Serbs only. In version 2 there was the introduction of a Serbo Croatian list 3/26. In version 3 i fhink to use a slavic army is not a good idea. Using DBMM armies i prefer Croatians. To compare with the old DBM list 3/26: DBM Armylists 3/1 EARLY SLAV 476 AD - 1218 AD
This list covers independent Slav tribes and states from their first move west until absorption into the Croat, Serb, Bulgar, Magyar, Polish, Rus and East Frankish states. "Southern slavs" includes the Slavs and Antes that fought the Byzantines and each other, and alternately fought and were dominated by steppe peoples such as the Avars, Magyars, Bulgars and Khazars, ending independcnt existence by 896 AD.
"Western Slavs" are the Carantani of Austrian Carinthia until absorbed by the Franks and the Bohemians and Moravians until the acquisition
of their lands by Poland in 1003.
"Northern Slavs" include those tribes such as the Dregovichians, Drevlyans and Vyatichans that successfully defended their native forests against the Rus until 985, and the Wends that defended and raided along the Baltic coast at least until 1218.
Maurikios describes the Southern Slavs as all living in river-side villages, bordered by forests, swarnps and beds of reeds, and being primarily armed with javelins. Some also had decorative but clumsy oblong "door" shields, and some used bows with short poisoned arrows. In the open, they would make feint attacks but only charge home if the enemy flinched. They were deadly fighters in woods, but their foot were easily ridden down in the open by cavalry.
Moravians used single-handed hatchets with short shafts. These have been found in the graves of all Moravian warriors, whether cavalry or foot-soldiers. Frankish knights are mentioned in the court of Svatopluk I and Svatopluk II. Some cavalry had a bow because archeological finds include graves containing spurs and bow but no lance. The Wends emphasised both cavalry and boats. The 2 horses to 42 men carried on each boat does not justify inclusion of horse transports. Saxon instructors were sent to improve wendish archery between 1170 and 1181 and some Wends then shot in bodies protected by shield bearers. Only one nationality of allies can be used. Swabian knights can always dismount as Irr Bd (O)...
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Post by vodnik on Oct 16, 2020 9:39:43 GMT
1040 Battle at Brudek (Upper Palatine Forest)
Bohemians: forest Ag1: 1x3cv(Gen), 6x4sp, 2x2ps, allied Hungarians: 1x3cv, 2x2lh
3/53 East Frankish 888-1106; arable Ag:3: 5x3kn(Gen), 2x3kn or 4bd, 3x4sp, 2xps
historically it was a Bohemian victory but 1 month later Henry III arrived with Saxon reinforcement in front of Prague and duke Břetislav was forced to surrender... |
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