Shooting at Cataphracts and Heavily Armoured Kn/Cv Sept 27, 2020 23:16:03 GMT
Post by snowcat on Sept 27, 2020 23:16:03 GMT
Under RAW, a cataphract horseman - man and horse completely armoured - is as easy to shoot down as a man in a leather corslet on an unarmoured horse. The former is 4Kn and the latter is Cv. Bw vs either has the same CF: 4.
Now imagine a regiment of cataphracts - such as Tibetans who history records as 'impervious to arrows' trotting in against a unit of archers. Those archers would be very concerned for their safety when they see the trivial effect of their shooting on the relentlessly closing cataphracts. But in DBA RAW it's the cataphracts who can be eliminated as easily as a regiment of mostly unprotected riders on unprotected horses.
Is this not ludicrous?
Meanwhile, under RAW you have crossbow and longbow armed shooters more able to eliminate Kn by virtue of their particular weapons. So a special case exists for these guys. But no special case exists for mounted who have far more protection than other mounted vs shooting.
Fortunately, in the case of 4Kn, there is a simple solution.
-1 if Bw vs 4Kn
This goes some way to rebalancing history vs a simple rock/paper/scissors abstraction that allows far too much fantasy.
What it doesn't do, however, is help all those heavily armoured mounted troops within the 3Kn and Cv classes who, by virtue of their armour, are on similar or equal terms to 'cataphract protection'.
It's not difficult to picture heavily armoured medieval knights (3Kn) for a Western example, in which man and horse are covered in plate and chain. Or a Timurid guard horseman (Cv) for an Eastern example, completely protected by lamellar, plate & chain. Yet these 'super-armoured' troops within their respective DBA classes are afforded no better protection vs shooting than equivalently classed troops wearing scant armour on unprotected horses.
Again, I find this ludicrous. And the often convenient riposte of 'play armies from the same DBA Book period' doesn't help here. Because you can have scantily protected Cv or Kn within the various DBA Book periods afforded identical protection vs shooting as super-heavily protected Cv and Kn in the same periods.
Other rules systems, such as L'Art de la Guerre (AdG) and Impetus (even Basic Impetus!), just to name two, don't throw history out the window like this. Armour/Protection is actually worth something if you're mounted and facing enemy shooting at you. Sure, in AdG, being on a horse vs not being on a horse is a negative vs shooting opponents, BUT it doesn't stop there: the rider's degree of armour gets to counteract or rebalance this penalty. And it's not rocket science. It's not complex.
But how to do it in DBA without creating a new category for both Cv and Kn, such as CvX and KnX...? This could be done, and could employ the same -1 if Bw vs 'x' rules as above, but would require rewriting army lists. I personally can't see this occurring except under 'Gentlemen's Agreement' conditions for certain armies played by various folks at home.
But maybe there is a way. Thoughts?