We were on the obligatory family walk today, as the only form of outdoor entertainment allowed, and as we crossed our river here in Melbourne I naturally started to think about DBA. It is not a big river, perhaps 30-40m across, and about 2m deep. It's not even in the same league as the Nile or Danube, which are listed as possible Waterways in DBA. Yet, I cannot see any meaningful ancient combat occurring across a River such as this, which raises the question of how the ancients fought across rivers and what were the characteristics of these rivers at the time of battle. Now, stevie has given us a wonderful understanding of how Alexander crossed rivers previously but the idea of crossing anything above knee high in the face of the enemy seems incredulous to me. Anyway, why am I ranting on the House Rules thread? Well, I thought that one way to negate the River defender terrain tactic is to allow any army to "land" on the defenders side of the river (on either flank) up to three elements exactly like a littoral landing, simulating fording elsewhere by part of the army ( e.g. Battle of the Hydaspes). No need for a new mechanism, just a new opportunity to use it. This may help push rivers to the flanks, which seems more in keeping with historical accounts.
Sure, use the usual river determination procedure... ...although it might seem a bit odd to have the general ordering his men to spend several days building loads of rafts, boats and canoes like Hannibal did, only to find out that the river is paltry and they could all have just waded across!
I am reminded of the anecdote from the American Civil War when Major General McClellan in Command of the Army of the Potolmac came across a potential river crossing point and he and his aides then debated if it was worth crossing there, and how far was it to the next crossing point, and how deep it was, and how long it would take to get his men across, and who should cross first... ...when a certain George Armstrong Custer rode into the water (which only came up to his horse’s belly) and shouted “This is how deep it is Mr General!”
Last Edit: May 19, 2020 7:53:26 GMT by stevie: ...I think generals in reality were clever enough to scout a river the day before a battle...even if DBA players are not...🤪
Yes. Keep all the river rules unchanged. Keeps it simple even if you get a paltry river. Just think of it as false information. It is a little double edged though. You get to choose either flank to arrive on. But you must deploy on the far side of the river. There will be some subtleties to play test such as camp placement etc. But it will be fun!