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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 1:13:25 GMT
Which would you take, and why?
Steppe, Aggr 3. a) 10 or 12 Cv (incl Gnl), 0 or 2 LH b) 5 Cv (incl Gnl), 2 LH, 3 or 4 3Ax, 1 Ps, 0 or 1 Art
The b) list looks a bit more balanced, but having read all the stuff about weak Ax and Ps of late, I'm not convinced...
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Post by paulisper on Oct 30, 2019 7:30:09 GMT
Which would you take, and why?
Steppe, Aggr 3. a) 10 or 12 Cv (incl Gnl), 0 or 2 LH b) 5 Cv (incl Gnl), 2 LH, 3 or 4 3Ax, 1 Ps, 0 or 1 Art
The b) list looks a bit more balanced, but having read all the stuff about weak Ax and Ps of late, I'm not convinced...
Option b - with that Aggression, you’re likely to be playing away most of the time and unless I’m also a mounted based army, I’m gonna be sticking down a lot of terrain against you - take the lights for balance... P |
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Post by vodnik on Oct 30, 2019 7:32:34 GMT
...B, you need bad terrain troops...
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 7:55:16 GMT
Would you bring the stone thrower as well? Or take an extra 3Ax?
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Post by paulisper on Oct 30, 2019 9:37:30 GMT
Would you bring the stone thrower as well? Or take an extra 3Ax? That’s a trickier one and depends on what you’re likely to be up against... |
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Post by Vic on Oct 30, 2019 9:51:39 GMT
Another vote for b).
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Post by martin on Oct 30, 2019 10:10:40 GMT
Would you bring the stone thrower as well? Or take an extra 3Ax? The stone thrower.....otherwise you’ll be gazing ar the walls of large forts or cities most (invading due Ag. 3) games. |
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 11:02:51 GMT
Would you bring the stone thrower as well? Or take an extra 3Ax? The stone thrower.....otherwise you’ll be gazing ar the walls of large forts or cities most (invading due Ag. 3) games. Seriously? How many defenders take BUA's? (Or do I misunderstand you?) |
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 11:25:09 GMT
I like the idea of giving the Avars their stone throwers, as they were using them regularly from 587 AD, and not just on the one occasion in 626 AD at the siege of Constantinople.
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Post by stevie on Oct 30, 2019 11:25:30 GMT
I think the best method is to anticipate what your opponent might have, and how you plan on countering them. So for example:- What if the enemy has an Elephant? (bring a Psiloi along, just in case). What if the enemy uses a City/Fort? (bring the Artillery along, just in case). What if the enemy has War Wagons? (again, bring Artillery, which also kills Elephants) What if the enemy has Knights? (bring the Light Horse along to make ‘Pursuit Traps’). What if you need to occupy bad going? (at last those useless Ax have a role to play!). Seems like the III/13b Later Avars have everything to suit your needs.  Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 11:36:25 GMT
I think the best method is to anticipate what your opponent might have, and how you plan on countering them. So for example:- What if the enemy has an Elephant? (bring a Psiloi along, just in case). What if the enemy uses a City/Fort? (bring the Artillery along, just in case). What if the enemy has War Wagons? (again, bring Artillery, which also kills Elephants) What if the enemy has Knights? (bring the Light Horse along to make ‘Pursuit Traps’). What if you need to occupy bad going? (at last those useless Ax have a role to play!). Seems like the III/13b Later Avars have everything to suit your needs. Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
Ha Ha! Classic. I'll pay that one. 
Now if they only had something to hurt the heavy infantry. Yup, it's the stone thrower again with a bit of luck! 
Actually the b list is not the Later Avars. It's the Early Avars immediately following their arrival and subjugation of the neighbourhood, prior to losing face with their subjects and allies after the unsuccessful siege of Constantinople in 626 AD.
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Post by stevie on Oct 30, 2019 11:42:22 GMT
..well, “the-later-version-of-the-Early-Avars” then. (And people call me ‘pedantic’!)  |
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 11:51:38 GMT
..well, “the-later-version-of-the-Early-Avars” then. (And people call me ‘pedantic’!) I know. I know. I have to live with me. Can you imagine?!   |
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Post by goragrad on Oct 30, 2019 18:50:16 GMT
Now if you two really want to be pedantic, the 'b' list is the somewhat-middle-version-of-the-Early-Avars...
As for myself, for another 4 packs (if buying by the pack)/15 figures, I'd be doing both options.
After all, one might decide to engage in a campaign occurring outside that narrow window for the 'b' list.
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Post by snowcat on Oct 30, 2019 21:07:13 GMT
Now if you two really want to be pedantic, the 'b' list is the somewhat-middle-version-of-the-Early-Avars...
As for myself, for another 4 packs (if buying by the pack)/15 figures, I'd be doing both options. After all, one might decide to engage in a campaign occurring outside that narrow window for the 'b' list. Indeed! |
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