As most people now know, Yahoo will be getting rid of the files of the Yahoo groups. There is an unfinished version of Solo DBA for 1.1. I have uploaded the finished version of Solo DBA for 2.2 onto the Fanaticus Wiki. Is there any interest in the unfinished version for 1.1?
It is unlikely that I will finish the version of Solo DBA for DBA v1.1. My impression is that few players still play version 1.1. I am participating in developing an alternative to DBA and HotT, and are unlikely to spend significant time playing 1.1. I would be very happy if someone else wanted to either finish play-testing and adjustment, or use it as the basis for their own creation.
Excluding major computer and back-up disasters, I expect to keep a copy beyond the time that Yahoo gets rid of the files.
I might add that DBA 1.1 is one of my two favourite versions of DBA.
Thanks for your reply, nowandzen. I will try and put the Solo DBA for version 1.1 onto the wiki in the next few days.
Interesting that you like 1.1. I prefer it to v2.0 or vanilla 2.2. It was also the version of DBA that I started with. Before I went into Triumph!, I had started doing solo games of it using the v2 army lists and 32" by 24" rectangular boards. Because I live outside the UK, with limited numbers potential opponents, I thought that I would be better with something that was current (as in easy to get new rulebooks) and would be played without modification.
You could look for a second-hand copy on either Ebay or Amazon. Alternatively, I believe that John Curry did a compendium of earlier versions of DBA, which will include it. There might be specific information about John Curry's book on Phil and Sue Barker's website. (Not selling my copy of DBA v1.1 I am afraid!)
I do know that they had (and probably still have) a free to download PDF of version 1.0 of DBA, which is fairly close to version 1.1. The main differences that I noticed were:
The authors added the following to the first paragraph of the introduction for 1.1:
“Since DBA is now being used extensively for competitions not restricted to historical opponents, this version1.1 incorporates changes to make it more suitable for this, and to harmonise with its DBM big battle derivative.”
This implies that many (or most) of the changes from 1.0 were for play-balance rather than accuracy.
The following was added: “A legal move cannot be taken back once made.”
In version 1.0, Light Horse slow down to 400 paces when moving by road, whereas in 1.1, they do not.
The ‘threat’ or ‘Barkering’ zone is 200 paces in version 1.0, rather than the base width of 1.1.
War Wagons do not shoot in 1.0. but do in version 1.1
There a small number of changes to combat factors:
Artillery went from 3 v foot and 2 v mounted in 1.0 to 4 v foot and 4 v mounted in version 1.1 Warband went from 3 v foot and 3 v mounted in 1.0 to 3 v foot and 2 v mounted in version 1.1
In 1.0, when an element wins when fighting 2 or more enemies, only the one to its front recoils, flees or is destroyed. The other(s) stay in contact. In 1.1, enemies in flank or rear contact recoil. Rear Support
Warband do not get rear support in version 1.0. but do in version 1.1
Scythed Chariots are not destroyed by equal totals in 1.0, as they are in 1.1.
Total less than enemy but more than half
Elephants are not destroyed by Auxilia or Light Horse in 1.0, but are in 1.1. Auxilia are destroyed by Scythed Chariots in 1.0, but not in 1.1. Warwagons are destroyed by everything in 1.0, but only by Artillery or Elephants in 1.1.
Total half or less than enemy
Light Horse are not destroyed by War Wagons in 1.0, but are in 1.1.
Psiloi are destroyed by any mounted in 1.0, whereas in 1.1 the only mounted that destroy them are Knights, Cavalry or Light Horse.
Last Edit: May 29, 2020 4:06:57 GMT by Piyan Glupak: Capriciousness
There were a few army list additions as well. For instance, the Camillan Roman and Polybian Roman were split from each other to become army lists 46a and 46b. Most of the army lists were unchanged from version 1.0 to version 1.1.
These old army lists were based upon the old WRG army lists You can use v2 army lists with version 1.1 providing you either avoid using Horde or substitute Spear for Horde. In fact, you can do that without it being a house rule! In version 1.1 the authors recommend using army lists based upon the DBM army lists, which the army lists for version 2 were.