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Post by j on Jul 28, 2019 20:27:22 GMT
Disaster for me in tonight's game as I can't get my head around the differences between Bad & Rough Going.
As far as I can see, Rough Going only affects movement, right?
It is not a Tactical Factor so does not affect combat or shooting (p8) ok?
A Group move in line can be made by any troop type?
If I have a Group in a Hamlet (Rough Going) or an Edifice (Bad Going) is the Command distance reduced to 4 BW?
Regards,
j
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Post by longtooth on Jul 28, 2019 20:42:55 GMT
Hi J,
You are sort of correct. Although Rough Going does not attract a negative combat modifier, it does eliminate quick kills from knights etc.
I am not an expert, but I think that any mix of units is allowed to form a column in rough going.
I believe that your command range will only be reduced to 4BW if you are entirely BEYOND the BUA.
Jesse
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Post by nangwaya on Jul 28, 2019 20:53:18 GMT
Hi j; Hopefully I can answer your questions correctly; On page 6 under "Area Terrain Features", it mentions that bad going "slows the movement of, and is an adverse close combat tactical for, some foot and all mounted and may hinder shooting (see p.10). On page 10 in the fourth paragraph it mentions "A hill's crest, a city or fort, or a 1/2BW depth of difficult hills, woods, oasis, dunes, hamlet, or edifice blocks shooting from and at and element base edge entirely beyond any of these". So the going in itself does not affect shooting, but the terrain type can, and as you can see from above, even a gentle hill which is good going can affect shooting.
And as Jesse mentions, being in certain types of terrain could affect a combat outcome even though you might not get a tactical +/- to your die roll.
Yep, any element type can form into line in rough going. If you go to page 8 at the end of "Player Initiative Point Dicing", it mentions "Command distance 20BW if entirely Light Horse. Otherwise, it is 8BW, but is reduced to 4BW for troops entirely beyond the crest of any hill, beyond a BUA or a camp, on a Difficult Hill, or in or beyond a Wood, Oasis, or Dunes". So if you have an element in the hamlet or edifice its command distance is unaffected, but if it has the hamlet or edifice between itself and the General's element, then the command distance is 4BW. I think I got that right. |
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Post by lkmjbc on Jul 28, 2019 22:54:17 GMT
Also remember that rear and side support are only awarded for elements in good going. So, rough going also takes this away.
Joe Collins
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Post by paulhannah on Jul 29, 2019 8:23:32 GMT
Consider also how the Combat Outcomes are different in Rough Going. For example, my opponent (far wiser than I in such things) the other day cleverly --and safely-- moved a Psiloi element into a muddy PLOUGH feature to extend a TZ onto a Cavalry element of mine --a move he only would have made because the Plowed Field was Rough Going. Damned skirmishers!
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