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Post by greedo on Mar 31, 2019 7:20:43 GMT
If 2Ps are considered "Fast", even if it's not explicitly stated, and Fast troops recoil against solid troops on a tie...
Do 2Ps recoil from solid foot on a tie?
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Post by stevie on Mar 31, 2019 8:19:12 GMT
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Post by decebalus on May 6, 2019 12:57:02 GMT
Yes, psiloi recoil from solid foot on a tie.
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Post by davidjconstable on May 7, 2019 8:20:12 GMT
Purley as an aside, based on 50+ years experience.
I had a tendency in latter life playing DBA2.2 to treat deeper bases as faster troops, to be corrected in a friendly manner.
Now I know changing bases is not on, but it would help if faster troops were on deeper bases (especially if infantry), I learnt a long time ago with Airfix Romans that it was no fun changing bases under WRG from half-inch to 15mm.
But slow infantry 15mm deep and fast 20mm would instantly say which they were.
David Constable
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Post by bob on May 7, 2019 17:55:31 GMT
David, I don’t understand what you’re saying. In Dba three, faster troops are on deeper bases. There is an option for all solid foot to be on Psiloi Deep base, But not everybody does that.
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Post by davidjconstable on May 7, 2019 20:34:40 GMT
Sorry Bob, sometimes I should add things I do not.
Just a general observation, nothing more, and not rule specific.
But it would be useful if rules differentiated, now if you have Greek/Hellenistic types, if both are four figures on 20mm deep bases, they can appear the same, but be 4Ax or 4Sp, not good.
David Constable
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Post by pawsbill on May 7, 2019 20:47:30 GMT
David, I don’t understand what you’re saying. In Dba three, faster troops are on deeper bases. There is an option for all solid foot to be on Psiloi Deep base, But not everybody does that. This isn't true except for Warband, Blade and Pike (and Spear which only have solid options).
Auxilia, Bow and Horde have both Fast and Solid options but only one base size option.
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Post by stevie on May 8, 2019 7:43:19 GMT
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Post by Vic on May 8, 2019 8:45:35 GMT
Miniature count is supposed to do the job! 2, 3 or 5 is fast, and 4 or 7 is solid; as far as I know there is no exception to that.
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Post by stevie on May 8, 2019 9:13:31 GMT
That is true Vic...but 4Bd and 4Ax do sometimes look the same, although they have very different effects. If it is a problem, then I suggest different coloured bases:- Dark green = those foot affected by bad/rough going. Light green = those foot that are not affected by terrain. And not all 3Kn carry lances or have armoured horses (see II/65 Early Goths). So have 3Kn on dark green bases and Cv on light green to tell them apart. (Mind you, I often use Cv elements as barbarian 3Kn, cos I’m soooo lazy when it comes to painting)  Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
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Post by bob on May 9, 2019 19:59:21 GMT
David, I don’t understand what you’re saying. In Dba three, faster troops are on deeper bases. There is an option for all solid foot to be on Psiloi Deep base, But not everybody does that. This isn't true except for Warband, Blade and Pike (and Spear which only have solid options).
Auxilia, Bow and Horde have both Fast and Solid options but only one base size option.
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Post by davidjconstable on May 9, 2019 20:28:53 GMT
I started to write my thoughts properly, but having got to an A4 page of 12 point text, I stopped
I could help myself by painting the back edge of bases for fast and slow.
Painting the edge all round on some 3Kn that dismounted and not painting the edge on those that did not dismount, worked for one army.
But the problem is more complicated than that, so it is simpler to leave well alone.
David Constable
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Post by pawsbill on May 12, 2019 22:39:07 GMT
This isn't true except for Warband, Blade and Pike (and Spear which only have solid options).
Auxilia, Bow and Horde have both Fast and Solid options but only one base size option.
Are you saying that in 15mm, fast troops are not on deeper than 15mm bases? No, I'm saying that Solid troops are not universally allowed an option for shallower bases. |
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