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Post by j on Mar 30, 2019 18:34:45 GMT
Just updating my Gallic Army. Is it possible to mix 3Wb & 4Wb in the same Army?
Regards,
j
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Post by menacussecundus on Mar 30, 2019 18:38:21 GMT
Just updating my Gallic Army. Is it possible to mix 3Wb & 4Wb in the same Army? Regards, j No. The list says "3/4Wb" and the "/" symbol means they have to be either all 3Wb or all 4Wb. |
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Post by primuspilus on Mar 30, 2019 18:41:22 GMT
That said, I'd see no harm in a player declaring at the start of a battle/campaign "all my Wb are 3Wb", even if they have the wrong number of troops on them.
I for one will NOT be painting and basing 2 of everything for my Gauls. Too much work. My wife says I spend far too much time on this nonsense already as it is!
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Post by timurilank on Mar 30, 2019 19:24:00 GMT
Just updating my Gallic Army. Is it possible to mix 3Wb & 4Wb in the same Army? Regards, j You could have a Gallic army (3Wb) supported by 3 x Germanic warband (4Wb) as allies. |
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Post by pat1958 on Mar 31, 2019 5:13:14 GMT
Isn’t the 3/4 restriction on a group of elements basis? For example, II/11 says general can be a 3/4 Wb, a second group of two elements can be 3/4 Wb, and the main group of six elements is a 3/4 Wb. So within each of those groups could you not have all of the units in a group be either a 3/Wb or 4/Wb, without affecting the 3Wb or 4/Wb choice for the other groups?
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Post by paddy649 on Mar 31, 2019 6:17:14 GMT
What Pat says is how I understand it. “/“ means “either choice for all members of the set. And in II/11 there is a set for the General, a set of 2 and a set of 6.
Unless we are playing an inclusive “/“ interpretation or ignoring the consensus......in which case I have no idea and you can do what you like!
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Post by menacussecundus on Mar 31, 2019 6:40:19 GMT
Isn’t the 3/4 restriction on a group of elements basis? For example, II/11 says general can be a 3/4 Wb, a second group of two elements can be 3/4 Wb, and the main group of six elements is a 3/4 Wb. So within each of those groups could you not have all of the units in a group be either a 3/Wb or 4/Wb, without affecting the 3Wb or 4/Wb choice for the other groups? <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.660000000000082px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_86566847" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_74028559" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_38348710" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_25804288" scrolling="no"></iframe> Possibly, but given that the switch from 4Wb to 3Wb is to reflect the change caused by the nobles fighting as cavalry, I think it more likely that all the warriors are meant to be the same over the entire army. |
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Post by stevie on Mar 31, 2019 8:03:11 GMT
To quote from the II/11 Gallic Army description:- “They lived in open arable farmland rather than forest and are best represented as 4Wb. An exception
were the Gaesati, a community of mercenary infantry based in the Alps, best represented by 3Wb.”At the Battle of Telamon in Italian Etruria in 225 BC, the Gauls (4Wb) had a contingent of mercenary Gaesati (3Wb). So I see nothing wrong with having say:- 1 x Cv General, 2 x LCh, 2 x 3Wb, 6 x 4Wb, 1 x Ps (And as has been discussed before in other threads in the past, 3Wb and 4Wb can rear-support each other)Some Helpful Downloads can be found here: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Reference_sheets_and_epitomes
And here is the latest Jan 2019 FAQ: fanaticus-dba.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ_2019_1st_Quarter
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Post by goragrad on Mar 31, 2019 8:34:32 GMT
With respect to the point that the switch from 4WB to 3WB is entirely due to the nobles converting to CV - the second subset of the army list giving a 2 CV option also lists the warriors as being 3/4WB. Based on that I would see a list of -
1 x CV General, 2 x CV, 2 x 4WB, 6 x 3WB, 1 x PS
as reflecting a group of nobles foregoing their mounts to lead/stiffen some groups of the warriors.
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Post by jim1973 on Mar 31, 2019 9:55:20 GMT
Isn’t the 3/4 restriction on a group of elements basis? For example, II/11 says general can be a 3/4 Wb, a second group of two elements can be 3/4 Wb, and the main group of six elements is a 3/4 Wb. So within each of those groups could you not have all of the units in a group be either a 3/Wb or 4/Wb, without affecting the 3Wb or 4/Wb choice for the other groups? That's how I play it. Jim |
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