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Post by bluestone28 on Dec 11, 2018 8:31:51 GMT
hi again!
player have 2 units side by side in front (but not in contact) of 2 other ennemies units
these 2 units are in Threat zone distance,
he wanted to recoil volontary to exit the threat zone
as i understand it is possible but in a straight direction,
my questions :
- how much it cost in Pips? (is the 2 unit count as a group or not for this move?)
- does he could recoil the desired distance he wants? (max his unit max move)
- what is the limits, constraint of this type of move?
thanks a lot!
Eric
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Post by timurilank on Dec 11, 2018 9:02:06 GMT
hi again! player have 2 unit side by side in front (but not in contact) of 2 other ennemies units these 2 unit are in Threat zone distance, he wanted to recoil volontary to exit the threat zone as i understand it is possible but in a straight direction, my questions : - how much it cost in Pips? (is the 2 unit count as a group or not for this move?) - does he could recoil the desired distance he wants? (max his unit max move) - what is the limits, constraint of this type of move? thanks a lot! Eric Eric,
Threat Zone, page 9, fourth line
(c) if a single element, to move straight back to its own rear for the entire move.
We read this as:
Backing out of a threat zone is not possible as a group move, but as a single element.
The move is straiight back, so no change of direction.
This is a tactical move, so certain terrain features can affect the total distance allowed.
You are not obligated to move the entire movement distance, however, whichever distance selected that will complete the tactical move for that element.
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Post by bluestone28 on Dec 11, 2018 10:11:12 GMT
all right, thanks!
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Post by wingman on Dec 11, 2018 13:19:19 GMT
Ouch! That really hurts to not be able to back up using a group move.
Can a group of units not in a threat zone move sideways (side step) up to the full movement allowance of the slowest unit in the group?
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Post by Baldie on Dec 11, 2018 13:44:32 GMT
No side step. If there were three units in the group each would expend pips to side.
If you are in a threat zone you can make up to a full move directly backwards. If it brings you into another threat zone can you keep moving?
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Post by bluestone28 on Dec 11, 2018 16:14:53 GMT
"No Side step" ?
so if you move on the side and just a little forward with all the group it work ?
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Post by paulisper on Dec 11, 2018 17:31:33 GMT
If you are in a threat zone you can make up to a full move directly backwards. If it brings you into another threat zone can you keep moving? Yes P. |
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Post by menacussecundus on Dec 11, 2018 17:34:29 GMT
"No Side step" ? so if you move on the side and just a little forward with all the group it work ? No. No diagonal group moves either. A group either goes directly forward or wheels by pivoting on the front corner of one of the elements in the front rank. (A group move can also combine the two. So, for example a line of cavalry could wheel for 2 BW and then move straight forward another 2 BW.) |
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Post by stevie on Dec 11, 2018 18:28:59 GMT
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Post by bluestone28 on Dec 11, 2018 19:14:55 GMT
sorry i didn't see in the rules where it's written that we must do this : ok group must make a forward wheel to Change direction, but to move forward, first element make the move and others follow, so diagonal move is possible, it's written that in a group, elements must move in parallel with each other or all units follow the first element move and moves of the same distance... again i use the French version of the rules so maybe the translation change the understanding of the text but... ? ah sorry Stevie i post in the same times! ok i will read yours, i'll be back!  |
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Post by menacussecundus on Dec 11, 2018 22:37:50 GMT
sorry i didn't see in the rules where it's written that we must do this : ok group must make a forward wheel to Change direction, but to move forward, first element make the move and others follow, so diagonal move is possible, it's written that in a group, elements must move in parallel with each other or all units follow the first element move and moves of the same distance... again i use the French version of the rules so maybe the translation change the understanding of the text but... ? ah sorry Stevie i post in the same times! ok i will read yours, i'll be back! I don't have the French text, so i can't say whether or not it is a mistranslation. However, following means that the elements are one behind the other in a column, not that one moves first and the others move in turn to end up in the same position relative to each other. |
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Post by medievalthomas on Dec 13, 2018 22:43:45 GMT
Groups can only change direction by wheeling. With the one exception of lining up in a TZ. Columns wheel from the front corner of the front element but may bend at the "wheel" point.
TomT
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