Using v2.2 Armies for Version 1

... replacing hordes by spears changes the strengh of an army. But the are also armies with hordes fighting as warbands.That could be the better option....

Thank you for your replies.

vodnik - This was just one example. I agree that Spear would not always be the best choice to replace Hordes for all armies. The version 2 Early Egyptians have most of the infantry Bows and Blades. The Hordes element represents "Conscripts under local commanders" according to the DBM lists (upon which the DBA version 2 lists are based). The trick would be trying to represent them as being less efficient than Pharaoh's more professional troops, but to minimise any effect of additional abilities of the alternate class. In this case, there are no other spear to give or benefit from rear support. Assuming that they are to remain hand-to-hand fighters, spear will not fight as well against infantry as the blades. Unfortunately, they will be a bit more robust against mounted. However, the only contemporary opponents for them that I have are Nubians that do not include mounted.

braisdefer - I will be playing solo as well. It was interesting to hear that someone else has been thinking along the same lines, and putting their thoughts into practice.

 What particular rules do you like in 1 or 1.1 that were lost in 2? I know lots of people did not like BUA . what other additions were bad? Thanks

Hello Bob.  In no particular order, things about 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 that I don't like include:

• BUAs
• Littoral landings
• 'Quick-kill' by Light Horse on Pikes or Spear
• Loss of rear support for Spear by Spear except against Spear or Knights
• Additional tactical moves, for instance by Psiloi in the first bound, Warband moving into contact, Light Horse
• Double-based mounted elements
• War-Wagon basing
• Dismounting at any time after deployment
• Litters general's elements as non-shooting War Wagons

I also tend to see the following as mixed blessings that, for instance, risk additional complication or restriction, but are sometimes useful:

• Hordes - which I see as the beginnings of grading sneaking into DBA
• The terrain system - which, I am sure, works far better for tournaments, but is more restrictive
• One Psiloi giving rear support v. mounted etc. to up to 3 elements of Spear, Blades or Auxilia
• Aggression factors of army lists
  

I am unsure about:

• Warband's immunity to bad going - did the Gauls and British really fight the Romans in woodland by choice?
  

In general, I find myself looking for something simple and basic that works for solo games between contemporary and believable enemies.  When version 2 came out, I accepted it as a package; latter I became a bit more critical of some aspects.  If I am playing solo, it doesn't matter too much what I play.  It would be convenient to use something that doesn't need too many house rules. 

At the moment, I am looking at some of the differences between 1.0 and 1.1.  Although the introduction of version 1.1 says:

There are a couple of things that I thought might have been simple oversights or errors in 1.0, such as Warband providing rear support not being destroyed when the element that they are supporting gets killed.