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Post by markw on Feb 6, 2018 15:36:56 GMT
Just a quick heads up on their latest kickstarter which has been running for a few days now.
The aim is 16 new armies and (via discussions in their FB page) plans to hopefully fill in a few gaps in existing ranges.
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Feb 6, 2018 15:43:25 GMT
I never done a Kickstarter before.
I see you get charged immediately, but do not receive until later this year.
When do you have to decide which packs you want to have your order fulfilled with?
It would be nice to have an idea what the shipping would be as I can see this as a big part of the cost to us in the States.
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Post by ammianus on Feb 6, 2018 15:47:29 GMT
Tony: UK postage isn't cheap.
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Post by markw on Feb 6, 2018 16:30:04 GMT
Hi,
As far as I can tell most of the figures have been sculpted. In essence it's being used as a pre-order system which many others also do. The nature of the wargames figure business seems to force many down this route. They need to get a sufficient quantity to make it viable and invest in moulds/casting etc. You can't really blame anyone who uses it this way. Sign of the economic times!
As for postage... at the bottom of their KS page:
"Based on past experience, we will be charging shipping after the Kickstarter concludes based on the actual costs incurred to ship. This is so we can be fair to all our backers as shipping is rarely one size fits all. We will collect this via our 'backer only' website whilst managing your pledge and after the Kickstarter campaign."
To be honest I haven't done a KS yet either! I think that's pretty par for the course though - perhaps anyone with more experience might be able to shed light?
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Post by menacussecundus on Feb 6, 2018 17:46:39 GMT
This is Forged in Battle's third Kickstarter for their Ancients (War & Empire) range. They have also run at least one other for one of their other ranges. I haven't taken part, but from comments elsewhere from those who have, they seem to have gone pretty smoothly.
I do have some of their figures though. I quite like them and find that they paint up well. The main drawback as far as I am concerned is that the packs are not particularly DBA-friendly. The mounted come 12 to a pack and foot 24 to a pack. (They usually throw in a couple of extra figures per pack, which is a nice touch.)
My Gallic army has 4 Cv elements (i.e.one pack) 9 x 4Wb (one and a half packs) and 2 slingers from Magister Militum as the Ps. The extra Wb gave me the 2 x 4WB I needed for my Later Carthaginans and I also have some of their Later Carthaginian Cv. So it is possible to use them for DBA armies, you just need to pick and choose a bit. Buying a whole pack for a single element would be bit expensive - even without taking postage into account.
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Post by ammianus on Feb 6, 2018 18:44:14 GMT
I have three W&E armies (Spartacus, Early Germans, Polybian) and I bought 2 packs for HoTT (Attecotti and Dal Riatans--see below). I agree with menacus in that they''re attractive figures and easy to paint. I also agree that when building DBA armies their packaging is nt the optimum. The large packs coupled with UK postage can be expensive. BTW, I have used Kickatarter, with Buaeda's Norse Irish army; everything went well. www.flickr.com/photos/76644443@N02/33567570646/in/dateposted-public/ |
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Post by jdesmond on Feb 7, 2018 22:53:21 GMT
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Post by markw on Feb 8, 2018 11:49:13 GMT
It's a very subjective thing of course. Personally speaking, I like the sense of "animation" in the FiB sculpts. I find Old Glory 15mm have certain 'crudeness' that grates. I'm not sure FiB's sculpts are any less detailed than Essex and the newer ranges certainly appear to show a progression from their earliest releases. Essex's tendency to have most of their figures in a rather odd "legs akimbo" pose has also frankly always put me off. I do agree the FiB pack numbers are not particularly DBA friendly however. I admit though, it's not an issue for me as I'm looking to go with Dux Bellorum on large bases (heresy!) for a more "flavoursome" take to my Dark Ages gaming (Arthurian through to 10th/11th centuries to take in Ireland - Clontarf etc). The somewhat "unsophisticated" (for want of a better description) nature of warfare in this period doesn't, to my mind, seem to translate well onto the tabletop as even with the changes in DBA 3.0 I've never been satisfied with how the various armies are "modelled" - especially the Auxilia paradigm eg. for the Irish who seem to have had more success against say Vikings than DBA appears to offer... I'll grab my coat!  |
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Post by ammianus on Feb 8, 2018 15:41:16 GMT
I cheat and make my Irish warbands.
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Post by vodnik on Feb 8, 2018 17:27:46 GMT
...it is a bit complicated, from now on i have to prepare my armies for Triumph & for DBA22...
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Post by Simon on Feb 9, 2018 8:45:09 GMT
I did have a chat with the Forged in Battle chaps when they were at Recon in Leeds at the end of last year and mentioned that there was interest in their figures within the DBA community but pack sizes were an issue. They said it was something they were aware of and might look at. It is mainly due to the mould design. I guess it might be worth a shot for others to contact them and see if they would do smaller packs or DBA armies.
In the meantime, one approach might be for players with similar interests to band together to buy and share packs. For example, I am interested in a Scots Irish army or Caesarian and Spartacus ones. If anyone in the UK has similar interests, let me know by PM and perhaps we could sort something out. I will be going to Hammerhead on 3 February and FIB will be there - so the first bit of postage is sorted! Donnington will also be there and so perhaps we could use their individual figures to make up numbers.
Regards,
Simon
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Post by menacussecundus on Feb 9, 2018 9:43:08 GMT
Unless they have changed their practice very recently, Donnington (aka Ancient & Modern Army Supplies) don't take unpainted figures to shows unless one pre-orders them.
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Post by Simon on Feb 9, 2018 10:37:45 GMT
Unless they have changed their practice very recently, Donnington (aka Ancient & Modern Army Supplies) don't take unpainted figures to shows unless one pre-orders them. Correct. I would pre-order. Simon |
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Post by paulisper on Feb 9, 2018 11:37:18 GMT
I will be going to Hammerhead on 3 February and FIB will be there - so the first bit of postage is sorted!Β Regards, Simon Some great news is that, for the Northern Cup, we will be gifting vouchers for W&E figures as prizes for the top 3 ππ P |
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Post by Simon on Feb 9, 2018 11:39:13 GMT
I will be going to Hammerhead on 3 February and FIB will be there - so the first bit of postage is sorted! Regards, Simon Some great news is that, for the Northern Cup, we will be gifting vouchers for W&E figures as prizes for the top 3 ππ P I will definitely need to part with my own money then!!! Simon |
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