|
Post by bob on Jan 12, 2018 4:17:37 GMT
"A group move across bad going must be in or into a column unless entirely by Psiloi. A group move can include reducing frontage to form such a column for this or any other purpose. The leading element moves forward, then others successively join behind it, moving as if by single element moves. "
I have always read this rule to mean that a line in Bad Going can form a column. If elements have sufficient distance allowed, as Macbeth says. A line of 4 Wb can move singly into Bad Going, for 4 PIPs and still be a line. Then for 1 PIP, can make a group move into a column. The rule does not say the move must be a Group move INTO Bad Going. There is no restriction for a line to column group move in Bad Going. For 1 PIP, the 4 Wb move as single elements from their positions in the line, to their positions in the column.
I believe that not in the Bad Going case, elements in a line can move some distance forward, and then with the remaining distance form a column. Elements that can make multiple moves, such as LH and MtdInf can make one move as a line and a second into a column
|
|
|
Post by martini on Jan 12, 2018 12:24:25 GMT
Once again, thanks for all the input. The warband I have to take are all 3Wb i.e. they are fast foot and move 3BW in any going. I have measured this and found that, numbering the line 1 to 4 from the left, if No. 2 moves 3BW straight forward (i.e. not wheeling, turning etc) then each of of the other elements - in the order 1,3,4 - can move to form up behind to make the column. If you use either No.1 or No.4 to form the head of the column, the final element will not be able to reach the column but could line up beside the 3rd element of the column. So I am satisfied that there is enough movement to form the column and I guess I will just have to chat to the competition organisers in advance to see how they interpret the final paragraph on page 8.
|
|
|
Post by Tony Aguilar on Jan 12, 2018 13:15:22 GMT
After reading the rule in 3.0, it seems like I am going to have to agree with Bob in that it CAN be done. It seems like some of us 2.2 players are at a disadvantage, because we "assume" that most things are the same, but we keep encountering little differences and pitfalls (such as how shooting is handled differently on BG hills in DBA 3.0) between the current set of rules and 2.2. To say that it is frustrating would be an understatement.
|
|
|
Post by timurilank on Jan 12, 2018 13:33:57 GMT
Once again, thanks for all the input. The warband I have to take are all 3Wb i.e. they are fast foot and move 3BW in any going. I have measured this and found that, numbering the line 1 to 4 from the left, if No. 2 moves 3BW straight forward (i.e. not wheeling, turning etc) then each of of the other elements - in the order 1,3,4 - can move to form up behind to make the column. If you use either No.1 or No.4 to form the head of the column, the final element will not be able to reach the column but could line up beside the 3rd element of the column. So I am satisfied that there is enough movement to form the column and I guess I will just have to chat to the competition organisers in advance to see how they interpret the final paragraph on page 8. If the pip gods are generous you can form two separate columns from the four element line. When executing the ‘group move’ do keep in mind the proximity of your general as the command distance may be reduced if the Bad Going is a wood or on the opposite side of a difficult hill’s crest line.
|
|