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Post by felixs on Sept 14, 2017 9:12:43 GMT
By ‘desert bases’, do you mean the elements or the terrain features? I mean the elements. Sorry, that was unclear.
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Post by timurilank on Sept 14, 2017 9:48:18 GMT
By ‘desert bases’, do you mean the elements or the terrain features? I mean the elements. Sorry, that was unclear. The bases are covered with a mix of white glue and sand; white sand is great to use, but is not readily available, so the effect will differ depending on the colour of the sand.
After this dries, I daub a much diluted Agrellan Earth (Citadel texture, 1:8 water). Brushing this may loosen the sand so let the mix flow over the sand. Use newspaper to catch excess paint as this can be messy.
After this dries, randomly dry-brush (white or beige) small areas to bring some contrast to the ground and cover small spots with grass tufts or electrostatic grass.
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Post by felixs on Sept 14, 2017 9:58:53 GMT
Thank you. That is very helpful!
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Post by timurilank on Sept 27, 2017 9:06:42 GMT
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Post by goragrad on Oct 3, 2017 10:38:53 GMT
Gads, been a week since I read this and haven't logged in to comment yet.
At any rate, interesting as usual.
Were good combat rolls or having more BW the key in that second battle?
And in the third were the Abassids across the river enough of a threat to justify the forces committed to counter them - from the pictures thy were all PS?
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Post by timurilank on Oct 3, 2017 12:53:00 GMT
Gads, been a week since I read this and haven't logged in to comment yet. At any rate, interesting as usual. Were good combat rolls or having more BW the key in that second battle? And in the third were the Abassids across the river enough of a threat to justify the forces committed to counter them - from the pictures thy were all PS?
In game two, the Arab Indian split its archers evenly on both flanks of the spearmen. Both were efficient at eliminating their targets early (good die cast) leaving the Abbasid spear without adequate support.
Game three, the Abbasid deployed a flanking column consisting of 2 x Ps and 1 x LH. These sought crossing points along the river in advance of the main army. Bad die casts for the Abbasid worked in their favour as pips were used to move the flanking column; hence the slow forward movement of the main battle line.
Once across the river, the light troops could flank enemy or lay down a TZ to impede the Arab Indian reserves from executing their support role.
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Post by paulhannah on Nov 24, 2017 22:53:10 GMT
Robert, how did you build your Christian Nubian army? Am I correct in gleaning from your gorgeous, in-game photos that the army is mostly or all Essex 15s? Do any of their figures resemble this chap?
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Post by timurilank on Nov 25, 2017 8:17:50 GMT
Robert, how did you build your Christian Nubian army? Am I correct in gleaning from your gorgeous, in-game photos that the army is mostly or all Essex 15s? Do any of their figures resemble this chap? Hi Paul,
The Christian Nubian figures are the Syrians from the Old Glory Crusade lists. These have tunic and breeches which make them different from the topcoat wearing Arab types. Camelry are Bedouin from the same list.
I had thought about using ‘Ansar’ from the Colonial Wars and add shields, but found the Crusade listings a better option.
This army was collected and painted before I learned of the release of a new series of Islam armies by Donnington. shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/armies-of-islam-175-c.asp MUF13 would make excellent 'Blade' types.
The illustration you sent is for a later period than what I needed .
Cheers, Robert
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Post by paulhannah on Nov 25, 2017 19:10:23 GMT
Thanks for pointing me towards that Donnington range for Christian Nubians. What an extensive range... Yes, I can see that MUF13 type for the Blades. From that same range, what do think of these choices? - MUF14 for the Archers.
- MUF10 & 11 for the Levy Horde.
For the Cavalry / Lt. Cavalry, what might you suggest? MUC20 Bedouins, MUC36 Early Syrians, or something else? That leaves just the Knights and Camel riders. Suggestions?
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Post by timurilank on Nov 25, 2017 20:42:35 GMT
Thanks for pointing me towards that Donnington range for Christian Nubians. What an extensive range... Yes, I can see that MUF13 type for the Blades. From that same range, what do think of these choices? - MUF14 for the Archers.
- MUF10 & 11 for the Levy Horde.
For the Cavalry / Lt. Cavalry, what might you suggest? MUC20 Bedouins, MUC36 Early Syrians, or something else? That leaves just the Knights and Camel riders. Suggestions?
Paul, Those are good choices for the Cv and LH.
The general (Kn); any with chainmail armour and turban would do. I like MUC26 with its face partially covered.
For the camel rider (Cm), there are two models offered in the original range under the Nabataean list, but there are no photos only a description. shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/nabataeans-35-c.asp
The other option is to use MUC01c Tribal leader camel mounted and replace the sword with spear. You might ask Donnington if standard Arab riders can be swapped to the Tribal leader?
Personally, I like the Bedouin camel riders from the Old Glory Crusade range which I am thinking of purchasing more for the Qaramitan army.
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Post by goragrad on Nov 27, 2017 7:06:03 GMT
Pity that Magister Militum doesn't have a large selection in their Berber/Arab lines as I agree with David Kujit (the old figure review on the Umiacs site) that they have by far the best camels I have seen yet.
Essex are nearly as good (Falcon is apparently currently not available).
Based on the pictures of the camels (and a couple that I just got in a miscellaneous batch of figs off TMP) on OG15s website they are a bit clunkier. The riders do have a reasonable variety though.
On the other hand if one is looking for more than just a couple of bags of figures OG15 is having their Christmas sale - an additional 10 percent off on orders of $100 or more.
By the way outpost has added a rather nice camel for the drummer in their Saladin Crusade period Islamic command pack. A bit large, but I got Outpost to sell me a couple of dozen to use with some Chariot Midianite camel riders that I got as 'horse archers' off ebay.
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Post by goragrad on Nov 27, 2017 7:08:26 GMT
Addendum - Outpost has some Sudanese in that Islamic line that might do for the Christian Nubians as well.
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Post by paulhannah on Nov 29, 2017 19:46:49 GMT
Using many of your suggestions, Robert, I compiled an order to Donnington for Christian Nubians, complete with some extra figures to satisfy my peculiar basing heresies. Then, with the sticker-shock of an almost £80 price-tag (with postage), I blinked. I suddenly didn't love this army that much. Order is on hold, for now, at least.
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Post by timurilank on Nov 29, 2017 21:05:41 GMT
Using many of your suggestions, Robert, I compiled an order to Donnington for Christian Nubians, complete with some extra figures to satisfy my peculiar basing heresies. Then, with the sticker-shock of an almost £80 price-tag (with postage), I blinked. I suddenly didn't love this army that much. Order is on hold, for now, at least.
Ouch! That is a shame. How much was the postage?
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Post by goragrad on Nov 30, 2017 10:47:10 GMT
Here is their shipping schedule, Timurilank - As can be seen if you just hit a breakpoint the shipping is as much as 80 percent of the order value. At the upper end of a range just below the break it drops to 40 percent which is still a bit steep. I carefully calculated my one order to come in just under 50 pounds. At that point the overall cost of the figures was still competitive (and with the recent price increase at Essex...). They do do a nice job of packaging - labeled baggies with code and number of figures and good padding. On the other hand, in the past the sales and free shipping offers from 15mmUK (Alternative Armies) have been quite attractive even though the packaging isn't quite at the same level. Should I be in the market for some figures in Donnington's ranges I would order again. P.S. 30 percent of order value is pretty much the standard for worldwide at the other UK companies. Donnington and Alternative to my knowledge are the exceptions.
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