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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 8:03:13 GMT
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Post by gregorius on Feb 28, 2017 8:03:13 GMT
Other than the Early Swiss is there any other armies that can field 6Bd?
Cheers,
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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 11:32:25 GMT
Post by martin on Feb 28, 2017 11:32:25 GMT
Not that I know of, Greg.
Martin
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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 17:19:47 GMT
Post by lkmjbc on Feb 28, 2017 17:19:47 GMT
Greg:
Wracking my brain... but I think 6Bd are only the Swiss.
Joe Collins
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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 17:59:31 GMT
Post by medievalthomas on Feb 28, 2017 17:59:31 GMT
Gads an element type that exists only for one army.
It reminds me of Camel(X) in DBM.
At least in this case it uses standard rules (ie we have a general rule for double depth elements).
TomT
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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 22:31:05 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Feb 28, 2017 22:31:05 GMT
Greg: Wracking my brain... but I think 6Bd are only the Swiss. Joe Collins That is correct, only IV/41 Early Swiss and IV/79a Late Swiss 1400-1424AD can have them. This sent me checking the army lists for allied contingents in other armies normally considered as Enemies of the Swiss and I came up with a question about the Battle of Laupen 1339...The Early Burgundians had an allied Fribourg contingent which is well documented in the battle.They are not represented in the Early Burgundian list and the Early Swiss are only noted as an enemy. Could the Fribourg contingent of the Early Burgundian army at the Battle of Laupen 1339 be considered as an allied contingent?Or otherwise an Inperial(Medieval German) ally? |
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6Bd
Feb 28, 2017 23:29:13 GMT
Post by gregorius on Feb 28, 2017 23:29:13 GMT
Thanks to all who responded. It confirms my impression that the Swiss were the only army to field this troop type.
Cheers,
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6Bd
Mar 1, 2017 8:15:53 GMT
Post by timurilank on Mar 1, 2017 8:15:53 GMT
Greg: Wracking my brain... but I think 6Bd are only the Swiss. Joe Collins That is correct, only IV/41 Early Swiss and IV/79a Late Swiss 1400-1424AD can have them. This sent me checking the army lists for allied contingents in other armies normally considered as Enemies of the Swiss and I came up with a question about the Battle of Laupen 1339...The Early Burgundians had an allied Fribourg contingent which is well documented in the battle. They are not represented in the Early Burgundian list and the Early Swiss are only noted as an enemy. Could the Fribourg contingent of the Early Burgundian army at the Battle of Laupen 1339 be considered as an allied contingent?Or otherwise an Imperial (Medieval German) ally?
The Battle of Laupen (1339) predates the Early Burgundian Army list (1363 – 1471 AD) .
The city of Fribourg was sold to the Hapsburgs in 1277 and ceded to Savoy in 1452 and later, as canton, joined the Swiss Confederation in 1481.
You may want to consider II/13b Medieval German with several elements painted to represent the County of Burgundy and Fribourg troops. This Medieval German list has five mounted elements, so a re-fight of Laupen would require less, possibly one or two.
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6Bd
Mar 1, 2017 16:04:31 GMT
Post by peteduckworth on Mar 1, 2017 16:04:31 GMT
DEffinitely only available to IV/79a but why would you use them when you have 3Bd available? 3Bd seem a bit of a super-troop on the UK competition scene...
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Mar 1, 2017 19:35:26 GMT
Post by paulhannah on Mar 1, 2017 19:35:26 GMT
...but why would you use them when you have 3Bd available? Cuz 6Bd elements just look so darn cool! |
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6Bd
Mar 1, 2017 20:38:00 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Mar 1, 2017 20:38:00 GMT
DEffinitely only available to IV/79a but why would you use them when you have 3Bd available? 3Bd seem a bit of a super-troop on the UK competition scene... 6Bd are like 3Bd, but get a +1 vs foot in good going. They are available to IV/41 Early Swiss too.😊 |
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6Bd
Mar 4, 2017 10:34:24 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Mar 4, 2017 10:34:24 GMT
That is correct, only IV/41 Early Swiss and IV/79a Late Swiss 1400-1424AD can have them. This sent me checking the army lists for allied contingents in other armies normally considered as Enemies of the Swiss and I came up with a question about the Battle of Laupen 1339...The Early Burgundians had an allied Fribourg contingent which is well documented in the battle. They are not represented in the Early Burgundian list and the Early Swiss are only noted as an enemy. Could the Fribourg contingent of the Early Burgundian army at the Battle of Laupen 1339 be considered as an allied contingent?Or otherwise an Imperial (Medieval German) ally?
The Battle of Laupen (1339) predates the Early Burgundian Army list (1363 – 1471 AD) .
The city of Fribourg was sold to the Hapsburgs in 1277 and ceded to Savoy in 1452 and later, as canton, joined the Swiss Confederation in 1481.
You may want to consider II/13b Medieval German with several elements painted to represent the County of Burgundy and Fribourg troops. This Medieval German list has five mounted elements, so a re-fight of Laupen would require less, possibly one or two.
Thanks Timurilank, I'd overlooked the dates as was busy trying to find out the best fit for Fribourg troops between Swiss and Imperial.It is interesting that some contingents in Swiss armies as late as the Burgundian wars are "allied" yet are perceived as Swiss in the lists rarther than Imperial.The IV/79c League of Constance list goes some way to address this I suppose. |
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