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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 10, 2024 11:10:26 GMT
Maybe we can gather our Section III armies here, armies of the dark age.
Edit: I changed the title of this thread from 'Section III Army Thread – 476 AD to 1071 AD' to 'Book III' because it is widely used and handier.
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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 10, 2024 11:23:13 GMT
III/46 Norse Irish (littoral)General 4Ax, 2 nobles 4Ax, 5x3Ax
3x4Bd or 3x3Ax or 3x2Ps, 3Wb or 4Bd or 3Cv or 2LH
Camp with two different kinds of camp followers.
DBA fighting quality: crap, so really an expert's army. (And as it was my first DBA army a little bit disappointing.) Best tactics: guerilla. Cram the board with terrain and a river and defend it. Choose warband against vikings. It may be difficult to decide wether to use 3xPs or 3x4Bd (a viking settler contingent from the Irish coast). More and more I prefer the Ps.
I think this army should be much stronger to fulfill its historical role and to have a fair chance against their standard enemy: the vikings (mostly 4Bd) III/40c. So use the special rules of our forum to strengthen the Ax. Or agree with your fellow player to replace 4Ax with Sp, 4Ax Gen with 4Sp Gen and 3Ax with Wb.
Art work: This army (15mm Baueda) was painted and based by Paolo Paglianti. Details: I suggested to paint them as a happy band of brothers. Their general is the first and only high king of Ireland Brian Ború, who in his reign defeated almost every viking army that showed up. His flag shows a golden irish harp on green, which is quite fictional I admit, but points out to a wonderful legend. Some of the warriors are clearly discernible as his sons. (Guess who?) One small mistake: the Ps or some of them should be slingers.
Summary: although they are hard to handle I enjoy every game with them.
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Post by Les1964 on Feb 10, 2024 12:25:45 GMT
Mine Brian Boru and the boys are back in town .DBA V3 III/46 NORSE IRISH 842AD -1300AD Gen 4Ax , 2 x 4Ax , 5 x 3Ax , 3 x 4Bd or Ps , 1 x 3Wb or 4Bd or Cv or Lh or Ps . Figures : Slingers Magister Militum , Mounted QRF ( in the UK ) , all the rest Baueda . More pics on FB , www.facebook.com/groups/382414395294162/permalink/1689935831208672
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Post by Haardrada on Feb 10, 2024 12:38:39 GMT
Brian Boru & Les1964...you guys beat me to it and I can say I couldn't have done a better job myself....thanks lads!
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Post by vodnik on Feb 10, 2024 18:18:09 GMT
...what means section 3? must be DBA or not???
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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 10, 2024 21:06:51 GMT
...what means section 3? must be DBA or not??? DBA 3.0 army classification (in German: nach Epochen sortiert: I Vorchristliche Antike. II Klassische Periode, 500 v.Chr. bis 475 n. Chr., III s.o., IV Hochmittelalter 1076–1500)
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Post by menacussecundus on Feb 10, 2024 21:32:34 GMT
...what means section 3? must be DBA or not??? And although many of us, myself included, still talk about Book I armies, Book II armies etc, the rules actually have them listed as Sections I - IV.
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Post by vodnik on Feb 11, 2024 7:55:45 GMT
...that was obviously a short blackout. Section 3 means dark age...
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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 11, 2024 9:53:00 GMT
I'll fix that. Book sounds much better... ... but now: let's see more of these armies.
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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 11, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
III/40c Norse Vikings (littoral) Camp, naval landing boat and fort 1×General 4Bd, 10×4Bd, 1×3Wb or 2Ps or 4Bw or 3Ax
DBA fighting quality: very strong, looks like a steamroller, but not invincible.
Best tactics: shield wall. Keep together, stay in good going, prefer bows to hold off any cavalry. If there is enough room you may try to crush your enemy by attacking with left wing, center and right wing, and slowly close in from both wings in the shape of a bull's horns.
Art work: This army (15mm Baueda) was also painted and based by Paolo Paglianti. Very nice are the shields. Some must have been taken in previous battles. Their general is Harald 'Hard ruler' Haardrada, who fought his way as a mercenary from Norway to the Rus and the Danube and back again to become king.
Summary: strong and sluggish and a bit one sided. Very good for starters. Personally I think it is too strong for historical refights...
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Post by vodnik on Feb 12, 2024 9:10:55 GMT
...with that Viking miniatures from baueda in mind i adaptet that warroirs to Slavic Bohemans: ...the mounted minies are from Essex and ATM, painted by timurlank...
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Post by Les1964 on Feb 12, 2024 11:41:03 GMT
My Bk III Scots armies . We are the Scots with pikes in hand , Rallied all the clans , Join the Scottish revolution .
DBA 3 , Bk III/45 PRE-FEUDAL SCOTS 842-1124AD Gen Cav or 4Wb , 1 Lh , 1 4Wb , 6 x 3Pk , 2 x 3Pk or 3Wb , 1 Ps and Camp followers . Mounted are Essex , foot are QRF . Needs to narrow the battlefield , to avoid being out flanked . More pics at , www.facebook.com/groups/382414395294162/permalink/1808427339359520DBA V3 III/78 SCOTS ISLES & HIGHLANDS 1050-1493AD Gen 4Bd , 5 x 4Bd , 2 x 4Bd or 3 Pk/Wb , 1x 4Bd or 3Ax , 2 x 3Bw , 1x 5Hd or Ps , 1 x 2 CF . Figures gen + 5 x 4Bd scale creep minis from the USA , 3Ax Baueda , all the rest QRF . Scottish Vikings , but slightly less angry ( Agg 3 v 4 ) , but a few more options in the box . More pics at , www.facebook.com/groups/382414395294162/permalink/1808427339359520
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Post by carll on Feb 12, 2024 19:50:17 GMT
All, Great photos, great armies and camps and edifice or is bit BUA / fort!?! CarlL
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Post by kaiphranos on Feb 13, 2024 1:14:36 GMT
III/22 Maya
Meanwhile, on the other side of the Atlantic, we have the Maya. There are four sublists covering periods from 600-1546; the one I built was the III/22c list, but all share the same basic structure: a core of 3Ax, sometimes a couple of 4Bd or some Bow, and a couple of Ps. On the bright side, all four lists have aggression 0, and three out of four are Tropical, so you should have good odds of defending with as much terrain as you'd like.
4Bd General and another 4Bd III/22c: Gen 4Bd, 1x 4Bd, 8x 3Ax, 1x 4Bw, 1xPs (no options!) These figures are 20mm Caesar plastics, for the most part. The camp followers are from an outfit called Germania Figuren. The Maya have a pretty limited list of historical opponents: Toltecs, Toltec-Chichimecs, Aztecs, and of course there's always other Maya to fight. (For III/22a that is the only opponent.) - The Toltecs are almost entirely 4Bd - against them your best bet is probably to drag them into the mud and/or try to get around their flank, since they are slower than you and have at most one Ps as lighter support. (Haven't played this out myself.)
- The Toltec-Chichimecs are mostly Bow - don't hang out and get shot if you can avoid it, just close in and get your +3 to their +2.
- The Aztecs are rough - either they can match you with 3Ax, or they can oppose you with expendable 5Hd who fight just as well as your main line troops. Try to get them bogged down and hope they get low pips, I guess - I haven't had much luck in this matchup.
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Post by Brian Ború on Feb 13, 2024 15:03:56 GMT
Splendid!
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