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Post by maxmurray on Dec 31, 2023 3:22:03 GMT
So, here's my dilemma. Can you halp me out? I am new to DBA 3.0 having played DBA 2.2 many years ago. Back then in the day, blades ran on 15mm deep bases. DBA 3.0 allows Blades on 15mm-20mm bases. I despise the tiny 15mm deep bases, especially since 15mm figures have become more herioc in size. I would MUCH prefer my blades on 20mm deep bases. Is there any *prohibitive tactical disadvantage* to using Blades on the 20mm bases? Will I be laughed and ridiculed out of the tournament hall for opting 20mm deep bases for blades?
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Post by vodnik on Dec 31, 2023 7:55:51 GMT
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Post by Baldie on Dec 31, 2023 8:27:08 GMT
I stick to 15mm bases cos that is how mine are based.
20mm may make more sense as it keeps recoiling foot lined up with lighter troops.
You may even get to stick more troops on a 20mm base it make it look like a real mob of solid foot.
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Post by martin on Dec 31, 2023 9:43:13 GMT
Your 3Bd have to use 20mm depth, I think…but I use the 20mm depth for all foot now (except Hds or 8Sp, 8Bw etc) because 1) it’s easy, 2) as Baldie sez, it keeps recoilers in groups at times, with the same recoil distance and 3) it’s much easier to fit figures on the bases, and reduces ‘overhanging weapons’ syndrome a bit.
There are other threads on this subject, if you can find them with a search…
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Post by vodnik on Dec 31, 2023 9:58:58 GMT
...I also prefer the thin bases. I also consciously buy new armies based on their size...
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Post by paddy649 on Jan 2, 2024 0:09:47 GMT
Technically they should be on 15mm bases unless the heroic figure size means they don’t fit or they are based for different or earlier rules. Basing them on 20mm deep bases for tactical advantage (recoiling back to groups) or for aesthetic reasons is (according to RAW and IMHO) a bit of gamesmanship.
Does it matter? Not really. There are swings and roundabouts with both and it depends on the army make-up and situation which is better. However, where possible I try to stay within the letter of the law when it comes to basing.
P.S. this issue is more pronounced with Wwg which can be based on 40mm-80mm deep bases. Would it be legal to mix these in a single army? Debate!
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Post by macbeth on Jan 2, 2024 1:06:23 GMT
As I had around 108 armies at the time of DBA3 publication I was not going to engage in that level of bulk rebasing, and so after that I have continued with the narrower bases for consistency's sake as I approach the 180 mark. I had a small amount of flak thrown my way at the last campaign I ran by the Medieval Irish and Scots Isles players - but I revel in the fact that my close order troops get to exit the rough and bad going more quickly, and can recoil 3 times when their flank is turned before running into the main line  Cheers |
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Post by claudermilk on Jan 22, 2024 14:47:23 GMT
I'm new, so for simplicity's sake (and one fewer different part to buy), I chose to standardize on 20mm depths for all foot. I haven't needed a Hd yet, but they can be on the same base as a Cv or LCh, so I'm set there.
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Post by vodnik on Jan 22, 2024 16:41:20 GMT
...that means that you can participate at every 2nd tournament. As long as you use DBA3. If you like to change to Triumph or so you have to rebase a few minies. Good luck...
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Post by claudermilk on Jan 22, 2024 21:21:56 GMT
I'm in it for the fun & playing with friends using DBA3. I've never been much into any tournament scenes. We all have our own priorities.  Heck, even when I was actively autocrossing, I was in it for the fun not the plastic trophies (yes, I acquired a few). |
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Post by vodnik on Jan 22, 2024 21:26:54 GMT
...no problem...
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Post by Brian Ború on Jan 23, 2024 23:20:41 GMT
Yes, it does, remarkably! I had to do a little digging, but I found a good reason why it is better to base Bd on 20 mm deep bases. Some time ago we discussed whether or not a 4Bd element in BG may turn 90° to attack an adjacent enemy unit... You find it here. |
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