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Post by gregorius on Oct 12, 2023 21:34:36 GMT
Exactly 716 years ago on Friday, 13th of October, 1307, the arrests of the Templars was carried out under the orders of Philip IV. This set in motion the ultimate destruction of the Templars. And perhaps gave rise to the superstition that any Friday 13th is considered unlucky.
Cheers,
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 13, 2023 0:07:52 GMT
Didn't he owe them a lot of money?😁
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Post by snowcat on Oct 13, 2023 0:16:54 GMT
Judas says "Hi!"
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Post by snowcat on Oct 13, 2023 4:36:39 GMT
Apparently, in the Bible bad things often happen on Fridays. (I wouldn't know.) But combine that with the 13th man at a certain event, and you have a likely source for the superstition. Never knew about the Templar angle until now though.
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Post by davidjconstable on Oct 13, 2023 5:58:32 GMT
I think you will find in a few countries that Jews were owed a lot of money, and the Templers was not the only case. I seem to vaguely remember it happening in England?
David Constable
P.S. - See Wikipedia on "British Jews", it occurred mainly at the end of the 12th century. And I am definitely not that old, even if I feel I am.
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Post by Baldie on Oct 13, 2023 6:44:31 GMT
I think you will find in a few countries that Jews were owed a lot of money, and the Templers was not the only case. I seem to vaguely remember it happening in England? David Constable You mean you were there? Wow
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Post by elliesdad on Oct 13, 2023 7:09:35 GMT
Didn't he owe them a lot of money?😁 Quelle surprise, as they say…
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Post by snowcat on Oct 13, 2023 10:09:47 GMT
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 13, 2023 12:09:01 GMT
I think you will find in a few countries that Jews were owed a lot of money, and the Templers was not the only case. I seem to vaguely remember it happening in England? David Constable P.S. - See Wikipedia on "British Jews", it occurred mainly at the end of the 12th century. And I am definitely not that old, even if I feel I am. I remember reading somewhere that the Jewish community in Rome had a precarious existence depending on the whims of each successive papal election.🤔
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Post by Cromwell on Oct 29, 2023 13:20:41 GMT
Very true! I am just reading about the Borgias.
giving me plenty of ideas for my Italian wars campaigns.
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Post by Haardrada on Oct 29, 2023 15:33:12 GMT
Very true! I am just reading about the Borgias. giving me plenty of ideas for my Italian wars campaigns. "Caesar or Nothing!"
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