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Post by martin on Feb 23, 2020 10:57:55 GMT
I Speaking of which...many ancient nations and states had large fleets, such as the Romans and the Persians, but in Phil Barker’s eyes that does not make them ‘littoral’. He seems to base his decision on how much a particular state or nation spent on maintaining a fleet. So Athens and Carthage spent as much (or maybe even more) of their annual military budget on their fleet, while Rome and Persia spent the bulk of their annual budget on their land army. Thus Athens and Carthage are counted as littoral, while others (even though their fleet may well be larger) are not. The decision on whether an army was littoral or not in DBA was originally taken based on the number of ship elements in the DBM army lists. If an army had many ships it might be considered littoral, if it had few it would not.
By the way, the lists were not just Mr Barker‘s work. I believe others such as Duncan Head were actively involved in composing the lists, and the allocation of topographies (I may need be corrected but I believe this is the case).
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Post by martin on Feb 23, 2020 10:51:33 GMT
question guys: I have an army with littoral terrain. I changed 3 elements with an ally which is not Littoral. Do i have the right to put my ally on the boats to disembark them ? The rules says (whose army's home terrain is LITTORAL) 8(3) Do the ally belongs to the main army or not ? The ally can only land if it is itself from a littoral list .....so eg If Sub Roman Brits, who are Arable, have a Viking Ally, and place a waterway as part of their Arable terrain, then the ally may land, the ‘main’ SRB army may not. If African Vandals, who are littoral, have a Moorish ally (hilly) the Vandals may land but the Moorish ally may not. The landers have to be seafarers, basically.
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Post by martin on Feb 23, 2020 8:05:34 GMT
With all the armies now complete for the DBA Northern cup 2021, bar some tidying up of bases on a few older elements, I'm turning my attention to preparation for the Northern Cup in 2024. I know, keen or what... Inspired by Kennedy's 'The Great Arab Conquests' and Crawford's 'The War of the Three Gods', the theme will be the middle east conflicts between 600-1000AD. As this is a period for which I have few current armies, it means buying and painting figures for 15 new armies and morphing the early Byzantines, Sassanids and Normans that I currently have for the other 5... oh, dear, better crack on! So, I've placed an order for a big batch of metal from a combination of Donnington, Essex, Lancashire Games and Old Glory (via Timecast), which should cover 4 of the Islamic Arab armies, the Later Pre-Islamic Arabs, the Thematic, Nikephorian and Konstantinian Byzantine armies and the conversions needed for the Sassanids and the Early Byzantines. This will allow me to build 11 of the 20 armies needed. I'm going to be one busy boy for the next four years ;-) P. Bugger me Paul! That's certainly a very tall order. Kudos to you for taking on such a huge project. Cheers, He’s a Marathon Man, in many respects, Greg.....going the extra mile is never a problem 😊 M
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Post by martin on Feb 21, 2020 8:58:14 GMT
Thanks, Martin. Was the first game not a SoA Championship one as well? Apologies - We hadn’t thought about /remembered it was an option at that stage (first game of the day). I’m sure Richard will give me a return match drubbing in the near future- 😊😶⚔️⚔️⚔️! He usually does. 10 1/2 months to get that one in ..... (Still max two between same opponents per annum?).
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Post by martin on Feb 20, 2020 23:09:47 GMT
A bunch iof games of DBA v3. 1. My Picts (II/68a) invaded Arthur’s Britain (II/81a). Arthur (or Richard P., in fact) had called in a Late Imperial Roman ally, who was stationed on the Sub-Roman left flank, the main battle line extending level with them. The Pictish spearmen launched an immediate attack on the Roman end of the line, and a long melee ensued with the enemy cavalry and cataphracts, culminating in a routed cataphractarii unit but a few too many Pict losses, despite the odds. Lost 2-4.
2. Ostrogoths /Heruls defended v Colin O’s Attila’s Huns. Large village in the Herul front left saw street fighting between my skirmishers and Germanic warbands with Hun horse archer support. This led to two Germanic warband falling in exchange for three Gothic skirmishers. Towards the coast the Herul cavalry (3Kn) ransacked the Hunnic camp, and also charged Attila, who fell in the assault . (3g+camp -3 win).
3. Next game- based on the recent Bakewell Wimp Wars theme (minimum. 6 Ps/LH). My Ancient Brits were invaded by Edward Bruce’s Medieval Irish (under Richard P.). A very tight game, with my warband general threatened by enemy mounted, while kern and Brit slingers slugged it out in a village. Warband held out in enclosures near the village, but the crunch came when Edward was brought down by a Brit light horse javelin...a lucky win, 4+gen to 4). Society of Ancients Championship game.
4. Last game – early Muslim North Africans were invaded by Abbasid Arabs. Slave troops landed on the beach...along with some Arab archers. These detached and started harassing the enemy centre. A big cavalry battle developed inland between the respective mounted troops of both sides. Eventually an element of horde from the Abbasid centre started to nibble their way along the EMNAS line., and as a result my EMNAS General was backed up against the ‘edge of the world’, about to be pushed into oblivion, when auxiliaries on the coast came to his rescue by killing off the last Abbasid skirmisher needed to tip the balance for a 4 - 3 win...close one!
Lots of fun, and a varied bunch of armies to sample.
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Post by martin on Feb 20, 2020 8:25:44 GMT
Hi Bob, The classic combination formula C(n,k)=n!/k!/(n-k)! (with k=2) doesn't work direct here, because it is possible to have a battle between two identical armies. But a simple square and remove the double counting is enough and n_games=(n+1)n/2. So assuming n=6384 (I haven't checked), then n_games=20.38 million games, or 18612 years and 260 days (at three game per day. No holidays). Doesn't appeal that much, and I like chinese armies... Love the last line.......😊
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Post by martin on Feb 18, 2020 14:05:07 GMT
Thanks to all the players for coming to Bakewell for the Winter Wimps Tournament and playing in the usual good spirit. The idea behind this tournament was that you had to have at least 6 LH and/or Ps and that you played with your opponent's army in alternate rounds. Here is a quick summary of the overall rankings and armies being played: 1 Colin O’Shea II/22a Nabatean 2 John Saunders IV/33 Epirot Byzantine 3 Mark Johnson II/37 Parthian 4 Pete Duckworth I/48 Thracians 5 Tim Rogers I/48 Thracians 6 Neil Mason II/67b Ostrogothic 7 Nick Wright-Carter III/74b Seljuk Turk 8 Frank Shaw III/16 Khazar 9 Mark Skelton II/58 Alan 10 Rob Rush I/3 Nubian 11 Pete Davis III/35 Feudal Spanish 12 Baldie 1/48 Thracians 13 Phil Johnson II/37 Parthian 14 Colin Alcock II/57 Later Moorish I will be setting the dates for the Bakewell Open in June shortly. Simon A belated ‘congrats’ to the redoubtable Mr Hittite....another fine performance. Sounds like a fun day was had - I love ‘marginal’ army themes 👍. Makes a change from the min-maxing, and is far more of a challenge, especially with the ‘using opponent’s army for every other game’ idea.
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Post by martin on Feb 13, 2020 13:43:54 GMT
Well Nic Robson at Eureka has done it again and created an itch for a new army/period. This is the beginning of what looks like an amazing ECW line: Eureka ECW 18mm miniaturesSo my question is what is the closest to DBA3 from the available options? There are a few threads with some tantalising teasers. But has anyone come up with a definitive answer? Cheers Jim DBTR from the Coventry crowd is very good - easily learned form DBA v3, but with enough period flavour to make it ‘work’ OK. It’s in the files section of the groups.io DBA site I believe (under Rule Variants sub section), ......And also in the DBA Facebook group files.
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Post by martin on Feb 12, 2020 9:37:31 GMT
....and thus rear corner contact still gives a group, as in previous v2.x
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Post by martin on Feb 12, 2020 9:36:07 GMT
Mark The issue is:-
Mistakes were made in some of the diagrams (admitted to by a core of playtesters, who were part of the writing process).
One of them is the text relating to ‘groups’.
The very same core of playtesters have clarified what SHOULD have been written in the FAQs.
Thus, the FAQs are taken by many ( / most) as definitive.
Martin
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Post by martin on Feb 11, 2020 9:20:07 GMT
Nowt fancy....I won’t spoil the surprise, but it’s ‘dark ages’ / early medieval. Best prize on the day will be a donation by Mr Hittite Painting Services, to a far higher quality 😊 I’ll see if I can find anything to donate along the lines of unpainted elements. Sure thing...there’s a healthy prize pool, but any extras welcome 👍
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Post by martin on Feb 10, 2020 0:19:37 GMT
DBA Army prize for Alton....8 weeks away, but trying to get it done before work intervenes, 15mm.co.uk figures, or TTG perhaps. What are you planning Martin? Love those Alternative Armies figures, especially the Medievals! Nowt fancy....I won’t spoil the surprise, but it’s ‘dark ages’ / early medieval. Best prize on the day will be a donation by Mr Hittite Painting Services, to a far higher quality 😊
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Post by martin on Feb 9, 2020 23:02:07 GMT
Why...? I thought this level of intellectual discussion would be right up your street P. Might be follically driven response, perhapz? 🙃
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Post by martin on Feb 9, 2020 19:14:37 GMT
Tetrapilectomy Well, thank you for teaching me a new word, Arnaud… and such a fun one! It might be useful one DBAday. Colin In what context is it being used here? In medicine/surgery it would mean the removal (-ectomy) of four (tetra) hairs (pilo). Scott Scott, would it mean ‘splitting hairs’ (??)...never seen the word before, meself.
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Post by martin on Feb 9, 2020 19:12:16 GMT
DBA Army prize for Alton....8 weeks away, but trying to get it done before work intervenes, 15mm.co.uk figures, or TTG perhaps.
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