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Post by primuspilus on Dec 17, 2017 14:41:29 GMT
I think that given recent threads by folks who cannot seem to get past the "paralysis by analysis" phase, this video series is highly informative, extremely useful for newbies, and shows the practicalities of the game in action. I think this is a critical and valuable antidote to the dry, mostly purely theoretical discussions of edge-case "what ifs" that rarely present themselves in live play.
While DBx rule-dissection is a fine pursuit for those who have perhaps burned themselves out doing software engineering, fighting corporate case law, or proving theorems, for the rest of us practical gamers, we seem to get along just fine. And the edge cases such as do occur, rarely, if ever, cause a problem that cannot be reasonably solved by two reasonable gamers.
DBA 3 is a fine set of rules. I have seen heated debates on the meaning and intent of all manner of rulesets, even those written in so-called "plain English" (whatever the hell that means). DBA could be clearer. This is true. But at some point the law of diminishing returns sets in.
Seems to me like we may be approaching that point. Would DBA ever be the perfect set of rules? For the long, lonely struggle of two guys who spent a hell of a lot of time searching for that perfect set, see Shauns Wargaming, and Prufrockian Gleanings.
No military commander ever has exactly what he needs for the job at hand. No manager ever has the budget or exactly the team needed. At some point, we pays our money, takes our chances, and we just get on with it.
So Tony, your videos are delightful, fun, have given me deployment, terrain and camp ideas, and are a total hit with my 5 year old son!
Bravo sir. Please do keep them coming!
Rant over.
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Post by bob on Dec 17, 2017 20:45:07 GMT
Hello Tony, Snip Let's have a look at my diagram below: For me, I have to play it step by step (A1 - A3) to get it right. I think you just skipped step A2, because of your 'mastery' - isn't it? Cheers, Ronald. fanaticus.boards.net/attachment/download/759Nothing was actually skipped. Lighthorse group contacted the single element. Then following the rule for conforming, the individual element lined up edge to edge corner to corner with the front light horse. "A single element contacted by a group conforms to it unless itself entirely in bad and/or rough going in which case the group conforms." conforming is not a two-stage process. There is contact and then the Element that must conform does so. Your first and third diagrams illustrate this perfectly.
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Post by Michael Demko on Dec 18, 2017 18:17:55 GMT
I can be somewhat lawyerly myself, but I do respect someone's request not to be drawn into that. Tony's videos are great, and I don't think we should be directly or by implication holding him and his friends responsible for resolving every point of confusion that the greater DBA community has about the rules.
I asked a question on one of his videos about rules, but I will refrain from doing so going forward. I enjoy the videos greatly, and would hate to be part of the reason they stopped.
There is a section of this forum for discussing rules, and we should probably keep the rule lawyering to that section of the forum, where people can choose to participate or not.
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Post by primuspilus on Dec 18, 2017 18:45:20 GMT
A thousand "Amens" to that, brother Michael! Let those who wish to debate what the meaning of "is" is, do so to their heart's content, but in the right place.
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Post by Baldie on Dec 18, 2017 20:19:26 GMT
Hold on everyone, I now feel we are going too far the other way and being too nice. Perhaps we should all try ambivalence for a while.
Bit early I know but have a fab time with your families this crimbo all and happy gaming for the NY
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Post by Simon on Dec 19, 2017 12:57:13 GMT
Hold on everyone, I now feel we are going too far the other way and being too nice. Perhaps we should all try ambivalence for a while. Bit early I know but have a fab time with your families this crimbo all and happy gaming for the NY Ambivalence - I think that is the after shave I am getting for Christmas. Or is it..... Simon
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Post by martin on Dec 19, 2017 15:58:09 GMT
Ambivalence - I think that is the after shave I am getting for Christmas. Or is it..... Simon Mine’s “Apathy” , by Christian Dior- ‘for the man who’s not really bothered’ 😎 And yes please, Tony, keep them video’s comimg. Excellent work. Martin
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Dec 20, 2017 13:00:10 GMT
Mitch and I do battle with some lighter armies. Early Armenian vs. Pergamene with Kappadokian allies. youtu.be/atKJ49YTXIc
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Post by timurilank on Dec 20, 2017 17:19:35 GMT
Mitch and I do battle with some lighter armies. Early Armenian vs. Pergamene with Kappadokian allies. youtu.be/atKJ49YTXIcThank you for posting another great video. That was an interesting use of a column to draw an enemy element away from its support position.
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Post by primuspilus on Dec 20, 2017 18:28:58 GMT
The effective use of an attack column. Totally agree!
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Dec 20, 2017 19:23:11 GMT
The effective use of an attack column. Totally agree! Well, it was fun to do even if it didn't work. I was actually looking forward to a more dynamic battle than it was, but that happens sometimes.
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Post by Baldie on Dec 20, 2017 19:28:36 GMT
TVM as ever
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Post by paddy649 on Dec 20, 2017 20:05:03 GMT
Tony - thanks - excellent as ever. Thanks.
One of the really nice things about your videos (please don't stop) it that it lets you see many other armies in action. I own relatively few armies and certainly no Early Armenian, Pergamene or Kappadokian.....so it was really good to see them in action and then look at where figures may be sourced from etc. I do like the Xyston Kappadokians.....Hmmmm.
I would not be that bothered about rule questions when they arise. I learn far more about DBA 3.0 from playing other people and learning how they play. Your videos are another way of learning and playing the game vicariously. So as long as it is pleasant, constructive and friendly I think it helps. So please keep them coming!
Paddy
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Post by Tony Aguilar on Dec 20, 2017 22:42:23 GMT
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Post by gregorius on Dec 21, 2017 5:43:38 GMT
Thanks for posting the two videos Tony. I thoroughly enjoyed the fight for Asia Minor. Looking forward to seeing how the Caledonian scrum is resolved.
Cheers,
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