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Post by felixs on Aug 30, 2017 18:42:06 GMT
Hello,
I am in the process of re-furbishing my Galatians into something that can portray all the (more or less) appropriate Celtic armies. Lots of 4Wb, 3Wb and then some...
So far, I have calculated the elements needed to field most options for: II/11 Gallic II/30 Galatian II/53 Ancient British II/60 Caledonian
Have I missed something?
Of course, these armies differ in detail, sometimes even in rather fundamental things. I am going for a rather generic "Celtic" look. The shield designs do a lot, the odd bit of woad here and there is fun, some naked fanatics mixed in etc. It does not need to be 100% accurate, I am fine with something that is reasonably close with some artistic licence.
Any other armies I should include?
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Post by Spitzicles on Aug 31, 2017 3:11:58 GMT
Have I missed something? Any other armies I should include? What about the Celtiberains? II/39b Too many Blade, not enough Warband?
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Post by felixs on Aug 31, 2017 6:53:49 GMT
What about the Celtiberains? II/39b Too many Blade, not enough Warband? Good point. The reason they do not feature here is: I already have them as a separate army
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Post by martin on Aug 31, 2017 8:34:44 GMT
The Celts also would be about right for the last vestiges of the Early Northern Barbarian (European version), and are not far adrift from the Dacian look, either.
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Post by felixs on Aug 31, 2017 8:50:02 GMT
The Celts also would be about right for the last vestiges of the Early Northern Barbarian (European version), and are not far adrift from the Dacian look, either. M I/14c is a good suggestion, thank you! I imagine the Dacians as a bit distinct from what I have done so far for my Celts. But then - I could just add the falxmen (2x3Bd) and a single element of 3Kn (Sarmatians) and would have a very interesting alternative.
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Post by felixs on Sept 2, 2017 16:11:08 GMT
My revised list for such a project (for which I already have most stuff) looks like this:
I/14c Early Northern Barbarians (Iron Age) II/11 Gallic II/30 Galatian II/52 Dacian II/53 Ancient British II/54 Scots-Irish II/60 Caledonian
I need the following (this includes most options and allows for fielding everything):
1 LCh* 3 LCh 1 Cv* 4 Cv 1 4Wb* 1 3Wb* 9 3Wb 9 4Wb 2 4Bd 3 Ps 2 3Bd (falxmen) 2 LH 1 3Kn (Sarmatians for the Dacian) For added flavour, the two variants of 7Hd for Ancient British and for the Scots-Irish might be an option. I think the British will get their druids, but I can do without the rather strange priest-option in II/54b.
The above assumes that 3Ax can be done with 3Wb and that 4Bd can be done with 4Wb, both of which I am fine with. Probably not going to field II/30c anyway.
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 3, 2017 2:22:33 GMT
Talk about good timing. I have my Celts primed and ready to go. Even ordered the druid from Magister militum (Chariot range) for the hordes. I was only thinking of Gauls and Ancient British but I am now going to shamelessly steal your idea and look into the other armies.
Jim
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Post by Baldie on Sept 3, 2017 8:47:59 GMT
Love the look of a Celtic force
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Post by felixs on Sept 3, 2017 9:23:49 GMT
Talk about good timing. I have my Celts primed and ready to go. Even ordered the druid from Magister militum (Chariot range) for the hordes. I was only thinking of Gauls and Ancient British but I am now going to shamelessly steal your idea and look into the other armies. Jim You could also have a much simpler version of the above if you leave out all the 4Wb options. All the 4Wb could also be fielded as 3Wb, depending on your view of history. Please tell us if you find anything else that should be in this, or if you find that anything really does not fit in at all.
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Post by jim1973 on Sept 6, 2017 1:56:12 GMT
I'm painting mostly Old Glory with some Essex. They would suit 1/14c but this army would have a lot more bronze and no mail. Most of the miniatures are probably too heavily armed for Scots-Irish and there are no falx armed troops for Dacians. I need some naked warriors for Galatians but certainly can be done and I think Caledonian would work well. Just trying to find some research as to how widespread woad tattooing was amongst the various Celtic tribe/nations.
Jim
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Post by deon on Sept 6, 2017 7:34:24 GMT
I think the early italian armies in the north were celtic in origin, so along with the Northern barbarians you have half a dozen others although they might look a little more exotic.
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Post by felixs on Sept 6, 2017 11:28:31 GMT
Just trying to find some research as to how widespread woad tattooing was amongst the various Celtic tribe/nations. If accuracy is important to you, I would leave woad out entirely. But some woad looks good, so it is in for my armies.
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Post by felixs on Sept 6, 2017 11:29:24 GMT
I think the early italian armies in the north were celtic in origin, so along with the Northern barbarians you have half a dozen others although they might look a little more exotic. Excellent idea, thank you. Could you point me to what armies you are thinking of? Oscans, Bruttians etc?
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Post by martin on Sept 6, 2017 13:42:01 GMT
There's one theory among some academics that the distinction between 'German' and 'Celtic' is somewhat blurred, and that eg the Cimbri and Teutones who went on a very memorable road trip way back when (and long, long before Hunter S. Thompson.....) might be thought of as 'Celtic', rather than 'German'. On that tenuous premise you could drag in the Early German lists, too (poss. II/49 from Vague memory).
Martin Known for putting felines in with pigeons.......:-)
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Post by felixs on Sept 6, 2017 14:04:39 GMT
Yes. Celts and Germans look similar enough anyway, so I would probably do that. The army makeup is also very similar, so a Celt army set should allow you to field most German armies too. I will, however, not, because I have a separate Early German army that awaits painting. I will paint them more drab and less flamboyant than the Celts. Historical or not, it should work visually. It looks as if we might end up fairly generic "Barbarians". Why not...
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